Spot the ball

[newtothis]

I think I count 4; possibly 5 issues of concern. What do you see LOL

 

[davesparks]

I see a decrepit gas cooker, a wall hung boiler installed to replace an old floor mounted one and what appears to be a one-pipe heating system.

 

[pennychew]

Struggling with this one as electrically theres not much going on. The flex clipped to the back moulding and wall looks a mess but don't think its a hazard.

If that is supply for the boiler it shouldn't be on a plug top in an unswitched socket though

**Edit**

Unless that unswitched socket is fed from its own isolator somewhere (unlikely!)

 

[newtothis]

I was thinking about 528.3.1 in BGB - proximity to non electrical services.

BTW I'm not looking for hints on trying to 'scare up' some work for myself.
I own this property and it has since been fully renovated.

 

[davesparks]

If that is supply for the boiler it shouldn't be on a plug top in an unswitched socket though

**Edit**

Unless that unswitched socket is fed from its own isolator somewhere (unlikely!)

Why shouldn't it be on a plug in an unswitched socket?

 

[pennychew]

Ive been told by two heating engineers in the past that they had to be on an FCU, one guy wouldn't sign off a landlords ticket for the gas as the combi was on a plug top. No idea who's rules/regs but that's what I was told

 

[Simonslimline]

Are you thinking along the lines of 554.3 BGB?

 

[telectrix]

Are you thinking along the lines of 554.3 BGB?

that reg. is not applicable to gas boilers. could be the source of his confusion.

 

[newtothis]

that reg. is not applicable to gas boilers. could be the source of his confusion.

Do I get any points for 528.3.1 ? :ears:

 

[telectrix]

Do I get any points for 528.3.1 ? :ears:

only for the flex being tight up agin hot pipes.

 

[davesparks]

Ive been told by two heating engineers in the past that they had to be on an FCU, one guy wouldn't sign off a landlords ticket for the gas as the combi was on a plug top. No idea who's rules/regs but that's what I was told

There is an important lesson for any trainee to learn here, don't ever trust anything the plumbers tell you!

Next time you encounter this politely ask the plumber to specify exactly which regulation refers to this, they won't be able to.

 

[pennychew]

There is an important lesson for any trainee to learn here, don't ever trust anything the plumbers tell you!

Next time you encounter this politely ask the plumber to specify exactly which regulation refers to this, they won't be able to.

Haha! Should have known better than to listen a plumber really!

The one that wouldnt sign off the landlords ticket was at my mothers old house that was being rented out so i wasnt too fussed about sticking it on a fused spur for her anyway.

From a good working practice point of view is it not better to put them on a fused spur anyway? We always do this on re-wires when im helping my pal out

 

[telectrix]

i prefer them on a FCU, if only for the fact that some dumb mrs mop might unplug boiler to use a vac. a socket outlet provides a compliant means of isolation, so would comply with regs. tin hat ready.

 

[Silly Sausage]

i prefer them on a FCU, if only for the fact that some dumb mrs mop might unplug boiler to use a vac.

You've got a cleaning lady?
Posh git!

 

[pennychew]

i prefer them on a FCU, if only for the fact that some dumb mrs mop might unplug boiler to use a vac. a socket outlet provides a compliant means of isolation, so would comply with regs. tin hat ready.

Read an interesting point earlier when I googled this situation... 'A socket and unswitched plug would be compliant as you have to remove the plug to isolate but a switched socket could only be single pole so not providing complete isolation' it was on the iet forum and makes an interesting point.

I'd still put it on an FCU though [emoji1]