Spur socket in bathroom

[dansk]

Good read this thread, the irony is were supposed to "harmonising" with Europe, but on my last trip to Spain there was a 13a socket outlet right in front of the sink in the bathroom, I couldn't believe my eyes, how safe was that?

 

[gman67]

Just for the little story, I am actually from france and back in the day we used to all have a 13Amp socket in our bathrooms, I have grew up like this and it was really common practice accross the country. However nowadays, the regulation says that a socket is allowed outside zone 2 if it is RDC 30mA protected with an isolating transformer however with no power limit.

 

[Engineer54]

You see sockets in bathrooms all over Europe, mostly backed up by a 30mA RCD device in the DB. I've seen on a few occasions in Germany such sockets protected by 10mA RCD devices. Been common in the US for donkey's years, mostly with RCD outlets. OK, i know what your going to say, they use 115V and those RCD outlets are 6mA, but 115V can kill you just as easily as 230/240V.


In fact, as far as i know, it's only the UK that doesn't permit outlets in bathrooms, RCD protected or not!!! Even the newer Reg's only allow outside of Zone 2... Personally, i can't see a problem installing an outlet in a bathroom protected by a 10mA RCD device!!

 

[gibo]

its normal in many eastern European countries to have washing machines in bathrooms

 

[gman67]

Yes exactly as engineer54, I don't see the problem neither having a socket outlet in bathroom isolated by a transformer and protected by a 10mA RCD

 

[kenny james]

Yes exactly as engineer54, I don't see the problem neither having a socket outlet in bathroom isolated by a transformer and protected by a 10mA RCD

because regulations tell us we cant!!!

 

[Des 56]

because regulations tell us we cant!!!

Table 8.1 of your on site guide

 

[kenny james]

regulations states 3 metres or more

 

[JLD]

Of course it is perhaps worth noting that the work described here is of course notifiable work to the local authority building control.

If my memory serves me correct there was an item in the news last year where a chap had installed something similar himself in his bathroom and while he was out his wife and son were in the bathroom using the bath and someone had pluged in an electric heater into the socket and it fell into the bath killing them both.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Of course it is perhaps worth noting that the work described here is of course notifiable work to the local authority building control.

If my memory serves me correct there was an item in the news last year where a chap had installed something similar himself in his bathroom and while he was out his wife and son were in the bathroom using the bath and someone had pluged in an electric heater into the socket and it fell into the bath killing them both.

Not that I'm aware of.
There was the case where bath taps became live due to a faulty cable to a heater, in a holiday let, and a woman died. In Cornwall or Devon I believe.

 

[Octopus]

3 meters from the edge of the bath would be well outside our bathroom on the landing.. LOL

 

[Des 56]

3 meters from the edge of the bath would be well outside our bathroom on the landing.. LOL

3 meters from the edge of my bath would be anywhere between infinity and beyond
I only have a shower