Spurs

[WB Scott]

Code 2, no immediate danger is there?

 

[Spudnik]

Code 2, no immediate danger is there?

No there isnt and to be honest, i think the worst it could be would be a 3.

Im still finding it hard to justify even a 3.

 

[chugs76]

you are only meant to have 1 spur unit for every skt outlet on a ring. anymore and your asking for trouble.

 

[Spudnik]

you are only meant to have 1 spur unit for every skt outlet on a ring. anymore and your asking for trouble.

Hi Chugs,

In what way?

 

[Mac]

I agree with Jason,in what way are you asking for trouble

 

[sparks1234]

think you will find no more spurs than sockets on the ring, does it say you cant put 2 of them off one socket rather than 1 off each

 

[andekoch]

as far as i know the regs dont specifically disallow2 spurs off one socket/ point and from a technial point of view nothing is being compromised, except possibly the connection point due to all the cables in one junction.

from a PIR point of view if there is no evidence of overheating, all the joints are tight and there is no excessive (apparant) strain or tight bends on the cables it does not warrant a particular code. If any of the above is evident then a code 2 is appropriate.

from a best practice point of view I would not do this but would go with one of the other previously mentioned solutions.

 

[Mac]

think you will find no more spurs than sockets on the ring, does it say you cant put 2 of them off one socket rather than 1 off each

What would you do then.How are you supposed to isolate the boiler and fridge off 1 spur/socket

 

[Spudnik]

What would you do then.How are you supposed to isolate the boiler and fridge off 1 spur/socket

Have you got the right glasses on tonight???

He is saying that you are not allowed more spurs than there are sockets on a RFC.

So, 10 sockets on a RFC, no more than 10 spurs, but it does not say how they are connected.

 

[sparks1234]

What would you do then.How are you supposed to isolate the boiler and fridge off 1 spur/socket

What I said was that there is nothing to say you can't take 2 spurs off the ring from 1 socket, I said nothing about spurs for isolating fridges etc, if you go further back on the thread you will see I apologised to Jason as I thought he was considering not putting a switch spur in for the fridge.

 

[flukey]

Your thoughts gentlemen please.

Kitchen RFC.

Double socket, spur down to single socket for fridge.

Spur also from same double socket to SFCU for boiler.

So, in effect, 4 cables into back of double socket.

Any reason why not?

i cant see any problem with what has been done as long as the terminations look like they are holding up but would probably give it a code 4 to cover my arse as i would be surprised if there is anything in the brb showing this as good practice

 

[grandad]

i would have thought that the reason why you cant spur two sockets out of one existing socket is because of the loading at the terminals
thats why if you want to put more than one socket/twin socket in a radial off a ring,you have to go from a fused spur to limit it.

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

grandad if the terminals are tight then they arent carrying the load just holding the connection together

 

[grandad]

grandad if the terminals are tight then they arent carrying the load just holding the connection together

mark
the terminals are part of the conductive circuit and designed and sized to carry a certain load.

think terminal block....you can squeeze 2.5 in a 5amp but you wouldnt use it to join a circuit that could carry 15A....tight or not

 

[Mr Mark Sparks]

just playing devils advocate

in a connector there is a chance the block will carry the load because the cables may not touch each other