Strange connections??

[splinterr]

:santa1:Hi i`m in need of a little help from an expert or few lol ,my mum has just bought a house which she intends to rent after any work that is to be done is finished when i went with her today to help make a list i was looking at the general apperance of the electrics which dont look too bad although we will be having them tested by an expert,knowing that some will change old fittings to make all appear well when realy it all needs doing i looked inside the cu this was when i became a little puzeld as the neutral wires of all the ring mains/cooker/shower were connected to the main earth block .I know this is not as it should be but everything seemed to work ok shower/fridge but turned of isolator on incoming supply but cant see why it would be like this ,hope it`s not hiding ££££ fault

 

[Geordie Spark]

sort of pme ???

Nah !! ............. that's one of them "Womens' Troubles" innit ???

 

[diditrain]

Might be a faulty circuit and someone has terminated it to the earth bar

 

[Knobhead]

I wonder if there’s an RCD?

 

[telectrix]

or two?

 

[Goody]

the earths are in the bar as well as the neutrals as its got spce for 6 more breakers ,and it only has 1 bar for earth one for neutral ,

Hi, is it anythng like the one shown below? Honestly, it's a working example that's against every rule in the book; certainly not a fabrication.

 

[Adam W]

Little lad goes with his mam to look at a house and becomes a spark in 5 mins.takes cover of cu and tinkers around..I blame part p..

What an unhelpful comment - someone comes here for a bit of preliminary advice and gets this from a supposed 'professional':

[video=youtube;GSAKg7o9-iU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSAKg7o9-iU&feature=related[/video]

 

[micknew]

WOW what a helpful comment you have just made.
Anyone else unimpressed????

 

[micknew]

Or should we encourage the DIY brigade, suppose it'll save them giving us a job.

 

[trev]

Or should we encourage the DIY brigade, suppose it'll save them giving us a job.

It'll keep the paramedics busy Mick

 

[Adam W]

WOW what a helpful comment you have just made.
Anyone else unimpressed????

There is such a thing as diplomacy - you could prepare someone for what to expect when their electrician arrives to do the job, or you could tell them they're a stupid little kid who is way out of their depth and shouldn't interfere in matters that don't concern them otherwise they'll probably blow them self up and/or burn their house down through their sheer incompetence.

If I heard the latter off someone who's supposed to be a professional representing their industry, I wouldn't be very impressed by that industry and would be more likely to have a go myself.

If you haven't got anything constructive to say, don't say anything at all, particularly where it concerns belittling customers for their lack of knowledge; I don't know how your business works but most electricians make their money out of working for people who aren't electricians.

 

[micknew]

OMG so you are encouraging self DIYers as well.
No pictures supplied, how are you doing it?
How can you give advice regarding something you haven't seen?
Do you work for B&Q in their DIY department?

 

[Goody]

I don't know how your business works but most electricians make their money out of working for people who aren't electricians.

Very true!

 

[Adam W]

OMG so you are encouraging self DIYers as well.

No, I am trying to promote the electrical trade as customer-friendly; you're trying to make that difficult.

No pictures supplied, how are you doing it?

Doing what? Pictures have been requested, there is no harm in doing so politely.

How can you give advice regarding something you haven't seen?

Where did I do that? By the same token how can you jump to the conclusion that someone is out of their depth when they're describing something they're unsure of?[/QUOTE]

Do you work for B&Q in their DIY department?

No, what an odd question.

This is an electrical discussion forum, not some kind of electrical superiority 'shoot n00bs down in flames' forum; there are plenty of those around without this being turned into one.

Given the choice I would use alternatives to estate agents, recruitment consultants, solicitors, mechanics, traffic wardens, train drivers, chefs and post offices, because they are notoriously difficult professions to deal with. There is no reason someone can't glean enough information from the internet, readers digest guides etc to DIY all their own electrical work, however I would prefer someone to pay me for my services because they feel I am easy enough to deal with.

You seem to have this idea that you are indispensable and that nobody has a choice other than to pay you mega money for you to talk down to them and throw your weight around. Remember those coal miners who thought the same in the 80s? It would serve you right to wake up one morning and find your services are no longer required, however I don't want you dragging me down with you because you're so blinkered and arrogant to foresee the consequences of your actions.

 

[Specialist]

Guys: Have'nt you noticed that the OP has dissapeared, just about the time that he was asked to provide pictures. But it appears to have served a purpose & got an Argument started again.

Gotta be said too: The public bickering is'nt doing the Forum any favours either.

 

[cablemonkey]

I am stating to think we are getting troll attacked by plumbers. :49: