Stripping for fun,or bending over

[cliffed]

wondering what’s being taught in college these days,to the apprentices.
Cause when they come on site,they certainly aint being taught like us seniors were.
Eg stripping of conductors,many use pliers or side cutters,they do not bend conductors over,up to 2.5mm.
Conduit skills to be admired from a distance.

 

[Rpa07]

Why can’t I remember that they are called bootlace ferrules, I let myself down each time!

i have bootlace ferrules on my bootlaces.red for port, green for starboard. still manage to get them on the wrong feet sometimes.

 

[telectrix]

Why can’t I remember that they are called bootlace ferrules, I let myself down each time!

that's nothing.when i was a lad just left school, i went for a job with a farrier, shoeing horses. took me all day to realise that the job did not entail chasing the horses round a field shouting SHOO, SHOO.

 

[Rpa07]

I wanted to give an ‘old’ but it’s the weekend so you get a funny despite my rolling eyes!

that's nothing.when i was a lad just left school, i went for a job with a farrier, shoeing horses. took me all day to realise that the job did not entail chasing the horses round a field shouting SHOO, SHOO.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Fine stranded conductors must have a suitable ferrule, crimp or in a few specific applications tinned ends when terminating. There's specific regs stipulating that. So by just folding over you're not complying.

Only times they can be terminated "bare" is in dedicated spring clamp terminals that the manufacturer of has specified this can be done.

There’s no requirement for ferrules or crimps.
Just for tacking precautions to protect the core when terminating.
Twisting and doubling over is one method.

 

[Squid]

Why can’t I remember that they are called bootlace ferrules, I let myself down each time!

Onset of dementia?

 

[Squid]

Did I say something....

 

[Rpa07]

Did I say something....

I don’t know, I never listen!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

Why can’t I remember that they are called bootlace ferrules, I let myself down each time!

The ones on your boot or shoe laces are called Aglets.
Not to be confused with a young eagle.

 

[Pete999]

The ones on your boot or shoe laces are called Aglets.
Not to be confused with a young eagle.

I have Velcro on mine cuz my hands don't work proper like innit.

 

[Bobster]

There’s no requirement for ferrules or crimps.
Just for tacking precautions to protect the core when terminating.
Twisting and doubling over is one method.

If I had a regs book I would quote the actual reg.

Fine stranded conductors will suffer from copper creep if not suitably terminated.

Twisting and folding over is not sufficient.

 

[Squid]

I don’t know, I am like a Goldfish, 10 second memory!

Oh dear.......

 

[Deleted member 26818]

If I had a regs book I would quote the actual reg.

Fine stranded conductors will suffer from copper creep if not suitably terminated.

Twisting and folding over is not sufficient.

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

 

[Rpa07]

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

I think we had the argument/discussion 2 years ago which culminated in a member going out to his van to get a new pendant to prove stranded terminations!
Let it go, let it go la la la la la Dee do!

 

[Bobster]

So every pendant, click rose and every plug you’ve installed, you put crimps on?

Take a look at how manufacturers install them.

Why bother putting coloured sleving on wires? Why bother putting labels on a CU? Because it's doing a job correctly.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I’ve worked in Hospitals, factories, football stadiums, ice rinks, schools, colleges, the O2, railway stations, marshalling yards, offices, hotels, shopping centres, shops, houses, flats, theatres, Police stations, air fields, caravan sites, power stations, data centres, car workshops, resturants and cafes, banks, magistrates courts, leisure centres, swimming pools, the Olympics, street furniture, TV studio, sewage farm, Laboratories, agricultural and horticultural, car parks....
Done power and lighting HV, MV, LV, ELV and reduced voltage distribution, door access controls, CCTV, BMS, trackside signalling, process controls, Fire alarms, PV....

The only time I’ve ever known bootlace ferrules to be used, is in BMS panels at a college and in control circuits at a couple of power stations.