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I supply work to firms where their engineers are equipped with smart phones and Seaward Primetest 300's.

If you're averaging 300 tests a day, every day, then you're looking at an average of 6000 tests a month


Thats a lot of class 1 tests being completed with a battery powered instrument not capable of testing cpc's with a high current! And you're content for this to be common practice simply due to testing being a numbers game?

(i'm not implying all tests will be class1).
 
Sorry if I'm not sugar-coating it enough but this just sounds like outsourcing PAT work, ultimately to a semi-skilled person on minimum wage who wouldn't be able to do the 'while you're here' jobs or even test fixed equipment, which is one of the reasons electricians get PAT work in the first place; you'd still have to send an electrician to do the piddly little electrical jobs and test the fixed equipment and 'difficult stuff' who would have a lower average 'test per hour' count and involve a separate journey. In other words this would simply be 'fudging the figures'.

Montaigne it seems you weren't adequately prepared to deal with the onslaught from angry electricians :D
 
Nope, I have plenty of customers. I really don't need to pick them up from random forums and that's why I split my post so that if it was considered a breach of forums rules the second one could be deleted and the main thrust of my argument would remain.

The point I was trying to make was that just because people can't see how to make a profit themselves does not mean that it is impossible. Rather than simply disagree with the post I attempted to demonstrate why I felt it was inaccurate and the offer to prove it was, I felt, really the only way to ultimately prove the matter.

Instead of a good discussion I immediately got grief. No matter. I'll leave you chaps to continue grumbling about how little work you have.

I read your summary and you miss a few essential points

You look at things 100 per cent profit driven
That is not a universal attitude amongst electricians

You are effectively a non productiive person in the electrical industry
I would say Leech,but that would be rude, so I wont

You do not equate morals and integrity with doing a job correctly and by a correct person doing it
Your viewpoint and attitude is typical of that which has prevailed over this industry for the last few years
This annoys those of us that were involved in the industry at a time when there "was" a touch of honesty and competence that could be demonstrated
 
Sorry if I'm not sugar-coating it enough but this just sounds like outsourcing PAT work, ultimately to a semi-skilled person on minimum wage who wouldn't be able to do the 'while you're here' jobs or even test fixed equipment, which is one of the reasons electricians get PAT work in the first place; you'd still have to send an electrician to do the piddly little electrical jobs and test the fixed equipment and 'difficult stuff' who would have a lower average 'test per hour' count and involve a separate journey. In other words this would simply be 'fudging the figures'.

Montaigne it seems you weren't adequately prepared to deal with the onslaught from angry electricians :D
thats exactly what it is Adam.....just a guy touting for gullable people who will end up doing all the work....while this character just sits there behind his computer screen watchin the cash come in....unfortunately he will probably be successful in his aims....
 
Wow, no wonder tradespeople have a bad reputation if you guys are anything to go by.

Apparently selling PAT testing at £3 an appliance at 200 tests a day to earn £600 a day or £156,000 a year for a job that takes 1 day to get the qualification is clearly an admirable trait in a tradesperson. Thank you all for illustrating that it is the 70p a test people who are really ripping people off and not you chaps who just want to earn a living!

AdamW I think I made the mistake of thinking that people in this forum were reasonable individuals, not obnoxious dinosaurs railing against the mean competition preventing them from exploiting their customers by generating something called competition. No matter, you guys keep putting those prices high and I'll keep undercutting you. Did I mention that I also sell services for electricians and undercut for those services too? :) Wow, what a waste of space this forum is LOL.

I've been doing this for 10 years but from the ages of some of you guys on here I guess a decade in business is still a flash in the pan ;) Have fun raging against evil sales people and competitive PAT testing companies who are more successful than you but I bid you adieu!
 
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Montaigne, I think you will find it is not possible to "PROPERLY" carry out all the relevant checks on 200 appliances a day, so your figure of how much can be earnt at those figures is just pie in the sky.
 
Montaigne Grow up ! well at 53 your the first to say that and as for a chip on my shoulder well I will just leave that to run off somewhere now let me get this right you are probably 25 in sales you probably think you are master of the universe because you think your charm and a good sales pitch is all you need now thats what i was trying to point out I have seen ,met and can even smell guys like you from 100 yards or metres if you want to go metric you are all the same PAT testing today baked beans tomorrow. The only problem I have is was it your **** or your vanity that drove into this forum ? Well from this old timer the majority of guy like you its vanity the only thing is when you get to 35 you will be reaching for the Just For Men to keep those grey hairs away and you can put it beside all the other lotions you already have because as they say "Your Worth It" and then when you get to 40 you will want to cap your teeth because dont look behind you because you will see guy just like yourself sneaking up behind you and of courss that when you stop telling people how old you are get a new young girlfriend to complete the deal still when you get to 50 your body and your head will try and tell you dont go for that face tuck because people are already giggling behind your back with the dark brown hair thats if you have any left by then Yep I have met you before in many guises but the outcome is still the same.

But I will leave you with this I did a bit a geneology years ago and a guy like you was breaking our as you say BALLS big time and all we got was put downs and narkie remarks about us all getting old so I got into a discussion with this master of the universe and pulled him into a plantroom where I told him if he did not stop this vanity trip that I would go down to RegisterHouse in Edinburgh and print off his birth certificate then photocopy it and put it all over the walls yep he went white as a sheet because the chip was on his shoulder and why am i telling you this well I would like to think you could find a bit humility inside you but hell whilst your reading this with your designer beer in your hand do me a favor and glance over to your skin products O and forget the Golden Goose no need for that

PS after reading this please dont throw your bottle of beer against the wall think of it as a good way of getting your skin a bit thicker
 
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