Testing rule & regs

[craig1000]

Hi people i was wondering if any one could explain to me a couple of things as i am slightly confused since part p came in & now i have gone self employed this will affect me.
I am a time served qualified electrician & since leaving my company august 07 have been subbing myself to smaller firms but am now looking to go fully self employed and take on jobs of my own.
I do not yet have my inspection & testing certificate but will do soon hopefully.
If i get this am i then able to alter old and install new intallations and sign them off? Do i need to register to do this? Do i still need to get part p?
Idont mean to sound stupid but trying to research these things i end up with varios results so i thought this would be the best idea.
Any in depth answers to fully explain things for me would be great.
Also in the mean time am i able to do a new install at a new property and then get some one in to test? Is this acceptable?

Kind regards
C O'Brien

 

[baldsparkies]

You can bypass the domestic and go straight for niceic approved contractor but will still need the domestic installer to sign of under part P, so it depends where the bulk of your work is coming from.
If theres red tape involved these organisations know how to find it.

 

[albi]

try the niceic full as i said from domestic to full is about £50 differance the fee this year is £420 of the top of my head for full

 

[baldsparkies]

Sorry Albi, I think you will find that if your a domestic installer and you want to go to approved then the fee is around £325 You will be getting another visit from an NIC assesor and he will want more than fifty quid.
If I have misread your post, I apoligise in advance mate

 

[albi]

how mutch is it now for the domectic installer with the nic for the year does any one know

 

[craig1000]

Thanks wveryone for your answers, just to clarify, to be able to sign off domestic work i will just need pat p and wont need to bother with the 2391? i will do at some point but due to expense i want to just get what i need for now. also is it a must that i have or take the 17th to get the part p?
Thanks agin people

 

[Spudnik]

Thanks wveryone for your answers, just to clarify, to be able to sign off domestic work i will just need pat p and wont need to bother with the 2391? i will do at some point but due to expense i want to just get what i need for now. also is it a must that i have or take the 17th to get the part p?
Thanks agin people

No you do not need 2391 to certify your own work.

Yes you will need to do the 17th update during your first year of membership.

Best check with the scheme you choose first tho.

 

[sparks1234]

But you should be compedent on testing if you are not 2391

 

[Spudnik]

But you should be compedent on testing if you are not 2391

Which, hopefully, the assessor will be the judge of that.

 

[sparks1234]

Absolutely

 

[baldsparkies]

With the niceic domestic the assesor will have to be confident with your inspection and testing, but you will only be able to use Installation certificates from them, they wont let you order their periodic reports only the green generic forms.

Dont ask !

 

[ezzzekiel]

no pwoblem at all just saying ...gawd
not sure on price but you must of been trading for a year i think before nic allow you contractor status..

dont think there is a great price diff between them some give you perks others dont,
not 100% on this but nic wouldnt allow you to do pir without there course and fees but napit is included etc etc

 

[Spudnik]

 

[markhtly]

how mutch is it now for the domectic installer with the nic for the year does any one know

£370 + VAT with direct debit.

£390 + VAT by other payment methods.

 

[craig1000]

Why do they have to confuse things so much? As im still slightly unsure about it all i would like some advice if i explain my exact situation, hope people dont mind soz if i seem dopey but i want to make sure o go for exactly what i rquire for my need.
I have been self employed for nearly 2 years now but just subbing myself to other firms on commercial jobs.
I would like to start pricing/looking for my own work both commercially and domestic but accept this will probally be mainly domestic work i will find.
What will i need to be able to sign off work that i do to alter an existing installation and install a new installation from scratch and give it its first inspect and test and then sign it off?
I am qualified to the 16th edition and dont habe my 2391.
With regard to them inspecting me/my work, as i cant sign it off yet how do i take on domestic work for them to inspect as i am currently still subbing commercially.
Any suggestion for how i should go about things to be able to take on and sign off fully my own work would be great.

Tahnks for all comments so far!

 

[acat]

To go domestic you will need to do the EAL VRQ you can then register with someone like the NICEIC on passing their assessment you can work on any domestic installation and self certify within 12 months of VRQ you will also have to pass the 17th edition upgrade exam

Hope that helps

Chris