The 'Electric gate' scam

[littlespark]

I remember our gate at caravan park was always troublesome.
This was for traffic and was the length of a road width… so sensed traffic going both ways.

Wasn’t for security… it just slowed traffic down enough so that we could read number plates off cctv.

It needed power to hold it down… so when there was a power cut, it opened under spring. Fail safe rather than fail secure.

We did get it serviced by the installers annually.. it is a specialised piece of machinery after all.

The problem ours had was on certain days, when the sun hit the optical sensors… the gate got confused and started waving up and down.. comical to watch… but no one could get in or out.. we had to manually switch it to always open.

Footage on YouTube somewhere… will have to find it..

 

[meditek]

Could it be something simple like the backup battery is faulty and so the settings are being lost?

No backup battery to my knowledge.

 

[DPG]

Battery backup kits are available for the Thalia P system. However these are to allow the gates to function during power outages. Example below.

Hiwever, I still think yours is losing its settings due to a fault.

 

[meditek]

How often and how long are the power cuts?

It may be worth investing in a small U.P.S to hold power to the gate controls

If this is the correct manual below, I can't see any settings that shouldn't normally be held in memory and no reference to loss of power.

The "decription gizmo" will only be a program presenting the settings in a slightly more user friendly view, and I supsect will hold a copy of your settings which can easilly be downloaded to your controller, saves scrolling through the menu with a button.

https://www.bftautomationuk.com/files/50/Control-Panels/119/Thalia-P---Instruction-manual.pdf

That's the manual. There is a heiroglyphic for closing distance but how you arrive at it and what it actually means are not shown. I attempted to ask BFT but they wouldn't talk to me because I was not one of their installers! They also informed the local installer who I'd used (only one for miles) that I'd been in contact with them!!!!!!!! Note that in order to get useful information from the BFT website you have to login and only installers have that privilege!

 

[meditek]

Battery backup kits are available for the Thalia P system. However these are to allow the gates to function during power outages. Example below.

Hiwever, I still think yours is losing its settings due to a fault.

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Thanks but our system is for convenience not security and I've spent enough already. :-(

 

[DPG]

Thanks but our system is for convenience not security and I've spent enough already. :-(

Absolutely. I think you've spent far too much already - I would be escalating things with the installer, and also speaking to the manufacturer of the control module.

 

[buzzlightyear]

I remember our gate at the prison was always troublesome.
This was for traffic and was the length of a road width… so sensed traffic going both ways.

Wasn’t for security… it just slowed traffic down enough so that we could read number plates off cctv but missed the prisoners going out.

So was you in the watch tower at the time.

 

[meditek]

I am wondering if you have a case for complaint against the installer.

They have provided a system that is not suitable for the environment it is installed in.
Keep a good record of all service call outs and what they say they have fixed.
if you have several "reset controller after power cut " then i would be pushing for it not being suitable for future use as it is unable to deal with something that is likely to happen regularly.

Dear James and everyone else,
Having today had a truthful account of my efforts to find a DIY solution to my problem censored by a robot I have decided to withdraw from this thread as I'm 82 in a few days and can do without Big Brothers everywhere these days. My solution to the problem is to remove the striker plate and fit a £5 manual hook and ring leaving us with a powered swinging gate that can be latched when required and two fingers to the industry and robotic censors.
Goodbye and thank you all for your advice.
Last words! :- it seems the robotic censor has been over-ruled and my reply re-instated!

 

[westward10]

Dear James and everyone else,
Having today had a truthful account of my efforts to find a DIY solution to my problem censored by a robot I have decided to withdraw from this thread as I'm 82 in a few days and can do without Big Brothers everywhere these days. My solution to the problem is to remove the striker plate and fit a £5 manual hook and ring leaving us with a powered swinging gate that can be latched when required and two fingers to the industry and robotic censors.
Goodbye and thank you all for your advice.

Nothing has been censored or edited on here

 

[meditek]

Nothing has been censored or edited on here

Well you missed mine which has just been reinstated. Ask DPG.

 

[westward10]

Well you missed mine which has just been reinstated. Ask DPG.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[meditek]

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Maybe you could suggest how I can spell it out to you? Here is another try. My reply to DPG's post with a link to the ThaliaP user manual appeared for most of today with a robotic note saying that only I could see it because it was under 'moderation' or words to that effect. The email was not immoderate nor anti-wokish imho which is why, presumably, it was re-instated this evening.
Hopefully, you now have a better idea what I'm talking about?

 

[DPG]

Maybe you could suggest how I can spell it out to you? Here is another try. My reply to DPG's post with a link to the ThaliaP user manual appeared for most of today with a robotic note saying that only I could see it because it was under 'moderation' or words to that effect. The email was not immoderate nor anti-wokish imho which is why, presumably, it was re-instated this evening.
Hopefully, you now have a better idea what I'm talking about?

You are blowing things wildly out of proportion! A link was not shown on the forum for some reason that's all. If you want to give up on things just because of that then that's up to you, but it's a bad case of throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Having said that, I hope you can get it sorted. I don't like to see people being ripped off.

 

[westward10]

Maybe you could suggest how I can spell it out to you? Here is another try. My reply to DPG's post with a link to the ThaliaP user manual appeared for most of today with a robotic note saying that only I could see it because it was under 'moderation' or words to that effect. The email was not immoderate nor anti-wokish imho which is why, presumably, it was re-instated this evening.
Hopefully, you now have a better idea what I'm talking about?

One of your posts went through moderation just after midday. None of your posts have been edited.

 

[meditek]

One of your posts went through moderation just after midday. None of your posts have been edited.

Never suggested they had been edited and still wondering wth I said that sucked in moderation in the first place. Please enlighten me?