The price of 17th ed course

[Paul.M]

There has just been a thread posted by a learning center offering the 17th ed course and exam for £570 inc vat. The thread has been correctly removed due to not being a forum sponsor.

My question is, do you really think you need 3 days tuition to understand and pass this exam? Yes its a very important qualification that all electricians need but for the price, well can it be valid. The exam by itself costs around £35 and a few people on this forum have revised at home and just sat the exam and passed with flying colours.

People with electrical training should be able to down load past papers, look through the brb and get themselves familiar with it and save themselves a whole lot of money. After all this is no way near as hard has the 2391 that does need a lot of classroom and workshop practice and the 2391 is only about £100 more?

What are your own views and opinions on this subject? Is it to expensive? Do we need a 3 day course?

 

[Paul.M]

I've just had a look at my local college fees to see how much it would be now if I was starting out.

2330 L2 £958
2330 L3 £519
17th. £499
2391/10 £683
PAT. £189

Sub total £2848

About another £250 for books + tools. It's only the price of a house rewire, let's all become electricians so we can sit at home looking for work and talk about it in the forum .

 

[Mr.Si]

Thanks everyone for this thread, it is useful to know as the 17th is an exam I'm yet to take, so I'll see if there are places around me in the Sussex area where I can take JUST the exam and save about 90% on the price of a 2382...

Won't my Fiancee be happy with me for money saving!

BS7671 with finger tabs stuck in it is by my bed anyway, so will need to start reading it more regularly.

 

[tonys]

Sorry mate diddnt realise that!

All because I passed it 2 years earlier, even though the 16th is the 16th, had no choice as far as I know, I had to do 3 days for the 17th. No choice in the matter lol

Also mate, in the year 2000 the college would not allow anyone to enrole on the 2391 unless they had the passed the 16th Edition first.

 

[High Tower]

Still the case, well with my college anyway!

 

[tonys]

I've just had a look at my local college fees to see how much it would be now if I was starting out.

2330 L2 £958
2330 L3 £519
17th. £499
2391/10 £683
PAT. £189

Sub total £2848

About another £250 for books + tools. It's only the price of a house rewire, let's all become electricians so we can sit at home looking for work and talk about it in the forum .

I wouldn't be surprised if I'm siting at home for the next 6 months lol

 

[john25]

my College were doing the 17th Edition at $275 up $30 from last year.

 

[trebor]

I work in a centre as a tutor so I might be shooting myself in the foot here but I have also been a self employed sparks so I have an undestanding from that side of the fence, some of the highest pass marks I have seen have come from self taught exam only delegates.

 

[bomjac]

Did this 2 weeks ago using Electacourse's online exam simulator as the basis for my study. Found the simulator to be exactly the same layout and set up as the official C&G exam.

Total cost - £50 exam, £64 regs book and £35 for the online course. A lot cheaper than the £300 - £500 that I was quoted by various colleges and training providers that I contacted before deciding to go down this route due to uncertainty of being able to make evening classes due to work.

I would recommend the self taught route for anyone with experience in the trade that is just looking to update their 16th edition.

 

[Mr.Si]

Electacourse is good - it was useful for my 2330 Level 2 exam revision. Noted!

 

[tony mc]

Bit steep the course prices and must vary around the country.

Just last year a Northeast college was charging £250 for a 2391 and it was a excellent run course.
Looking at the prices on here think I got a bargin.

 

[Sparky Ninja]

I work in a centre as a tutor so I might be shooting myself in the foot here but I have also been a self employed sparks so I have an undestanding from that side of the fence, some of the highest pass marks I have seen have come from self taught exam only delegates.

From my experiences, I couldn't disagree with you more.

 

[SMB]

Thats interesting widdler.

It must be due to the people you have experience with; they didn't have an understanding of 7671 in the first place ?

It was obvious after the first tea-break on my course who knew nowt and who was informed.

There were a couple who were very informed, they didnt need to do the 3 day course, but had somehow got conned into it (self employed people).

The 'exam-only' idea should be promoted for those who already have the knowledge, this isn't advertised though.

None of this affects me.

I wish you well.

 

[Phil]

i can say i took my 16th and 17th after studying the books at home and when the 17th came out i was lucky enough to grab a place at the eca update conference. that one afternoon i believe was greater than many of the tutors i have seen teaching the regs. i suppose thats what it boils down to really. you may be lucky enough to get a good tutor or you may fall unfortunate to get a tutor that gets you to underline things in the book as paul did, i also know the tutor he had and if i had relied on his tuition alone to pass an exam good luck. for the guys who just take the exam i suppose it boils down to you get back what you put in. i for one put a lot in and it worked for me because i wanted it but lets be honest some can`t be bothered to pick a book up and the courses given a good tutor will do well. i could teach my 15 year old daughter to pass it though. so passing the exam is not always the same as understanding the regs though.

 

[SMB]

okay Phil, good point.

But I was talking about the people who don't need a 3 day course.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

 

[Phil]

okay Phil, good point.

But I was talking about the people who don't need a 3 day course.

Sorry for any misunderstanding.

no need to apologise mate, i wasn`t responding really to anyone just my thoughts overall on the thread. i know there are many out there that don`t really need the 3 day course and would be fully able to just do the exam