There must be some kind of law

[mrsparky]

To this pat testing game how can you possibly test 200 300 4000 a day,these companies need reporting and the nic should be looking into this its outrageous.

 

[Patman]

Oh gosh !! Its a red hot topic ! Take a look at the thread for "the great pat testing scam", it makes us concientious types realy mad!

 

[monkeyelectric]

4000 a day ain't half going some

 

[Patman]

Yeah - I rekon mrsparky just put one too many 0s in.

Today I got a reply from a potential customer I quoted for 250 items. They'd been offered the service for under £200 !! At the very least that makes 75 - 80p per item.

That was also supposed to include repacement plugtops and fuses etc. And yes - they took that offer.
How someone can provide meaningful test results and test certificates for that sort of money beats me.

Answer? They can't do !

Anyway I'm getting vertigo up on this horse so I need to climb down awhile.

 

[oldtimer]

Remember as they say once you are registered you can basically do what you want and the longer you get away with it the more chance you will not be pulled up because it makes the people who police it look bad and you dont want to use those guys who work on their own because their not big like us.

Ironically we one man bands are more thorough and do the job right by the book so we are not open to criticism but yor right if a pat test takes 5 minutes and you have all the equiment lined up next to each other then thats 5 x 4000 -60 = 333.33 hours a good day would be 5 x12 = 60 so 8 hours no breaks = 96 items at £1 or £2 pounds each

 

[maddfridge]

hi there

To many qualified electrical installers pat testing at the lowley end of the food chain

in these times more would see this as an alternative income wack out a few and get paid easy money

things may pick up again and leave to the rest of you lot

seen this time and time again

customer will take lowest price obvious


cheers
all and happy pat testing your poor lot lol

 

[Patman]

Not really sure if a response is warranted for this thread as those of us at the “lowley (lowly) end of the food chain” would not be worthy.

It’s a good job that those who provide a decent service don’t “wack (whack) out” their PAT testing, and once things pick up and qualified electrical installers return to their wacky ways, us poor lot will be able to continue to make a decent living.

 

[oldtimer]

hi there

To many qualified electrical installers pat testing at the lowley end of the food chain

in these times more would see this as an alternative income wack out a few and get paid easy money

things may pick up again and leave to the rest of you lot

seen this time and time again

customer will take lowest price obvious


cheers
all and happy pat testing your poor lot lol

Lets not kid ourselves on here there is no such thing as easy money it may look like that sometimes but as the discussion above people are trying to make an honest crust but are getting squeezed out by coperate Britian by people who do make easy money because they cut corners also look at the ne AA home repair adverts John Cleese picks up a local directory and his "daughter" says Dad dont bother with those cowboys phone the AA. I would like to add PAT testing on to the services I provide but I cannot afford to buy a tester keep it calibrated and cannot use it because I am priced out of the market

 

[grantr37]

removed post due to fear of reprisal LOL

 

[grantr37]

you need to edit out the company name in your posts before we get a lawyers letter served on our forum, which is not what we want, check out where the search engines have come to this page on the bottom here, all looking for a particular key word , rant finished lol

 

[MarkieSparkie]

We all recognise the game being played by these people, low quote to get this years business in the hope they can push the price up each subsequent year without the customer squealing, because they're gambling on having established a relationship between tester and client at just the time when the economy is on the up and they are less likely to under-cut by similar cowboys.
A lot of nieve soles tried this in the last recession and got burnt. We can only hope!

 

[oldtimer]

Lets not kid ourselves on here there is no such thing as easy money it may look like that sometimes but as the discussion above people are trying to make an honest crust but are getting squeezed out by coperate Britian by people who do make easy money because they cut corners also look at the ne ?? home repair adverts John Cleese picks up a local directory and his "daughter" says Dad dont bother with those cowboys phone the ??. I would like to add PAT testing on to the services I provide but I cannot afford to buy a tester keep it calibrated and cannot use it because I am priced out of the market

Edited company name

 

[oldtimer]

We all recognise the game being played by these people, low quote to get this years business in the hope they can push the price up each subsequent year without the customer squealing, because they're gambling on having established a relationship between tester and client at just the time when the economy is on the up and they are less likely to under-cut by similar cowboys.
A lot of nieve soles tried this in the last recession and got burnt. We can only hope!

Problem is that Joe Public now expects low prices because he actually thought he was getting a proper service in the first place

 

[72-van]

I could Rant on this topic

how can a 1 man band afford to do the job Properly for this price,
Unless he does a long long day onsite probably working for way less than the min wage.
His outgoings at first glance might seem minimal but in reality are quite high v the the rewards.

One of these days i am going to sit down and work out exactly the cost of doing say 50 pat jobs a year roughly one a week i bet you that the cost of doing each of those visits would be more than 75p per test.

rant rant

72-van

 

[oldtimer]

I could Rant on this topic

how can a 1 man band afford to do the job Properly for this price,
Unless he does a long long day onsite probably working for way less than the min wage.
His outgoings at first glance might seem minimal but in reality are quite high v the the rewards.

One of these days i am going to sit down and work out exactly the cost of doing say 50 pat jobs a year roughly one a week i bet you that the cost of doing each of those visits would be more than 75p per test.

rant rant

72-van

OK look at it this way a big company has to pay wages , NI, Pension,transport yet they still can cut the prices so how can they do that easy the job is not getting done by the book and there is no one to pilice them and even if there was they would go out of business and start up a new company in a heartbeat and we as a country allow this as I have said to the letting agent I do work for if you want me to do PIRs and PAT testing then I will do it right but I cannot do it for the prices you get them for. Ironically I get more work out of this and one example was a burnt out cable and fuseholder on a fuseboard mind you they had the brains not to put their company sticker on the burn marks of the DB