Thermo dynamics for hot water that runs off atmosphere

[Danlow84]

They work at full output down to -15.If anyone is interested in a free survey no obligation please feel free to inbox me

 

[The Solar King]

I think I am about to loose the will to live with regard to this technology.
PLEASE someone provide real life, substantiated performance data for this equipment. Otherwise this is nothing but mental masturbation. In may make you feel good but it doesn't produce anything. What is so difficult about this? I have been asking for over a year without success.
Come on, show us the colour of your money.
This must be the fourth thread on this topic, still with no conclusion.

 

[Danlow84]

If youve been trying for over a year could you not just talk to someone who has it fitted?if you tell me exactly what it is your looking for i will gladly try and help

 

[Earthstore]

Hmmm, £5000 to install a system that just heats your hot water, that is without the running costs.
Just how much do you think it costs to heat hot water in a domestic situation using standard methods?

By the way I have looked into these systems myself, but for heating not just hot water.
I am not saying they do not work, just as the rest of the industry is saying, there is still no proven real time data for them yet.

 

[jason121]

i am still waiting for my answer from you Danlow84

 

[Danlow84]

What was your question jason?and i think if you were to have constant hot water 24 hours a day your gas bills would be very very high and as you may be aware they can also be used to constantly heat things like swimming pools aswell

 

[jason121]

So if MCS class them has a heat pump, they won’t be eligible for the RHI because they cannot be used for space heating yes or no ?

 

[Danlow84]

At the minute that is true they aint eligable for rhi but a lot of ppl in idustry are confident by march time they will be

 

[jason121]

not if they class them as a heat pump which in effect they are

 

[Vegelen]

They work in all weather conditions.
They work at full output down to -15C.
Fast, payback period.

No, no and no.

3 Strikes and you're out?

 

[Gavin A]

oh, can heat pumps not get RHI if they're just for water heating then?


or more accurately, is that the proposal in the consultation?

hmm, well that will be a serious problem then as a disincentive from using them for water heating and an incentive to companies to go around fitting them as space heating solutions in totally inappropriate situations. That certainly sounds like the sort of thing that DECC / Gemserve would manage to come up with.

 

[steve k]

I have installed a few of these systems and these are the facts:

Ambient air temp - 6 deg C
Water entering temp - 8 deg C
200l of water 8 deg to 55 deg = 2 hours
amp draw = 9amps

Now i'm no mathematician, but what does this calculate into?

Steve

 

[whinmoor]

I have installed a few of these systems and these are the facts:

Ambient air temp - 6 deg C
Water entering temp - 8 deg C
200l of water 8 deg to 55 deg = 2 hours
amp draw = 9amps

Now i'm no mathematician, but what does this calculate into?

Steve

A miracle?

If this is true, it's very impressive technology.

 

[Vegelen]

Will this amazing new technology cut my gas bill in half, allowing a fantastically quick payback time on a 5K installation cost?

Or will I be left scratching my gonads when reality hits, the debt has to be repaid and the snakeoil salesman has hit the highway?

 

[Worcester]

That works out at about 4.14 kWh...
That's the same as the immersion on for just under and hour and a half..