Tools used when rewiring domestic property.

[BALDRICK]

Good Morning. Can anyone tell me what tools would be used when cutting channels into plaster when rewiring an occupied home?

House has solid walls, not plaster board and electricians used jackhammers to channel out, without extraction. I know rewiring is messy but the house was like a building site.

Is this usual practice? I have been told that electricions have cutting tools and use extraction and have had a previous house rewired (solid walls) and can’t remember this level of mess.

thank you.

 

[Risteard]

only a mod. can edit a title.

Unless they're retired.

 

[Mike Johnson]

I did chase out a bathroom with a double disc electric chaser, with the windows open and a large industrial fan on in the room (extractor had broken down) after about an hour the fire brigade turned up saying that someone had reported the house was on fire, they did not laugh, local Pompier did not have a sense of humour.

 

[multimick]

unfortunately it all depends on how much you are paying ,i know it shouldn't, but it does

 

[Lister1987]

Even if thry were using angle grinders, you can get extraction cases that enclose the tool and hook to a vacuum.

 

[Midwest]

I can view the video. I would call a halt to the proceedings. Read through your quotation. There's an unfortunate side affect of chasing walls, but that looks like Armageddon.

Ask 'em for their CDM Reg risk assessment, and whether they own a dust pan & brush!

 

[Pete999]

every jobid different. e.g. empty house, just bought. customer is going to replace all the carpets anyway, so who cares if they get trashed? differemnt with occupied house. can't make a mess so that's reflected in the cost.
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just wondering how you retire a house. do you put it out to grass, like a horse?

lYoum getting as bad as Buzz Tel wiv yer spelin

 

[multimick]

for7 men read 6 apprentices and maybe 1 3rd year apprentice, boss showing up now and seldom

 

[BALDRICK]

SJD these are some of the (allegedly) finished chases!

Midwest what is a CDM risk management?

The contracts manager is coming tomorrow to look at the mess. It is my daughters rented property so reading your replies I do think the Landlord has gone for the cheapest option and she was not given a choice.

 

[haptism]

SJD these are some of the (allegedly) finished chases!

Midwest what is a CDM risk management?

The contracts manager is coming tomorrow to look at the mess. It is my daughters rented property so reading your replies I do think the Landlord has gone for the cheapest option and she was not given a choice.

Its filled in, what else do you want electricians to do ? Wallpaper and paint it aswell

 

[BALDRICK]

Its filled in, what else do you want electricians to do ? Wallpaper and paint it aswell

No but I expect it to be finished to a standard where we can paint it. The plasterer hasn't even polished this off. The video posted earlier showed much neater channels. Even in these replies there are different standards. These fall below mine.

 

[Midwest]

Midwest what is a CDM risk management?

The contracts manager is coming tomorrow to look at the mess. It is my daughters rented property so reading your replies I do think the Landlord has gone for the cheapest option and she was not given a choice.

All that dust and detritus has to be managed correctly, google CDM. What did the quotation say about dealing with the chasing & debris?

I've done some work in a properties in single rooms, that created lots of dust etc, but it was managed appropiatetly. Seems here the whole house has been treated like a building site?
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Its filled in, what else do you want electricians to do ? Wallpaper and paint it aswell

No but treat your clients with some respect. They are not there for your benefit, they are paying for your custom.

 

[Andy78]

No but I expect it to be finished to a standard where we can paint it. The plasterer hasn't even polished this off. The video posted earlier showed much neater channels. Even in these replies there are different standards. These fall below mine.

Your expectations may not match the quoted work though, especially if you have not ordered the work.
If the finish is not suitable to decorate you will have to take that up with the landlord not the electrician. It is quite normal for a rewire quote to not include for fine finished chases.

 

[BALDRICK]

All that dust and detritus has to be managed correctly, google CDM. What did the quotation say about dealing with the chasing & debris?

I've done some work in a properties in single rooms, that created lots of dust etc, but it was managed appropiatetly. Seems here the whole house has been treated like a building site?

Thanks I will ask to look at the quote and plan tomorrow. I suspect their plan was get in and get out quick, not all of the workers were even wearing masks!

 

[haptism]

No but I expect it to be finished to a standard where we can paint it. The plasterer hasn't even polished this off. The video posted earlier showed much neater channels. Even in these replies there are different standards. These fall below mine.

To get a finer finish you could go over with easy fill and sand down appropriately ! But tbh chasing a finished wall is always going to leave signs that its been chased unless its redecorated to a high standard. I dont even know why ive jumped on this bandwagon of a thread but anyways. I agree with the dust issue, the only way round that is using a wall chaser with attached vacuum, keeping area well ventilated, and covering up everything in sight with sheets (chasing can be v.dusty your lucky they used breakers and not grinders). In fact I turned down a job last week cause the chasing would create too much dust with the meagre equipment I have.

 

[Robson689]

The problem with brick dust in an occupied rewire is the silica released into the air. The homeowner is being put at unnecessary risk by the contractor not using suitable extraction systems.

I can't even cut concrete outside without water suppression so I don't know why anyone would find it acceptable to do it in someone's house especially when occupied.