Torque Drivers

[Geordie Spark]

Are you incinerating I'm peculiar, my man? :egypt:

Not at all wife-to be.

 

[vernam616]

I bought some Torqueleader screwdrivers around 5 years ago as it was specified on one of the council contracts that we use them, never used them since

Actually for sale if your interested,i put them on ebay and here a few months back but had no interest in them they cost a absolute fortune when i bought them new

This is not mine but identical, also have the red one
TORQUELEADER, 015600, TORQUE DRIVER | eBay

 

[Geordie Spark]

I bought some Torqueleader screwdrivers around 5 years ago as it was specified on one of the council contracts that we use them, never used them since

Actually for sale if your interested,i put them on ebay and here a few months back but had no interest in them they cost a absolute fortune when i bought them new

This is not mine but identical, also have the red one
TORQUELEADER, 015600, TORQUE DRIVER | eBay

So my suspicions are confirmed - these things are a complete waste of money along with Part Pi$$ and the Scams.

 

[Plonker 3]

So my suspicions are confirmed - these things are a complete waste of money along with Part Pi$$ and the Scams.

Dont worry I am sure NICEIC will soon run a 1 day course on how to use them.

 

[Plonker 3]

Can see it now," so you tightened them terminals to the manufacturers recommendations" "yes here's my torque driver to prove I did them correctly" "very good, now prove to me they actually went into the terminals"

 

[PEG]

I believe that nobody should purchase a torque screwdriver,until they are 100% confident about torquing a fitting or termination,without one. I can see their use on production line or repetition work,or as a companies attempt to prove QC. If you used one on any new DB,10 different sparks would find 11 screws not to their standard...For example,they ONLY assess torque,pure and simple. They cannot assess things like wear,friction,direction or material. If you,say,tightened 12 screws using a torque driver,set to the required torque,and you felt No.3 needed another squeak,what do you do? ...Leave it alone,risk a problem,and blame the driver or setting? ...or give it a bit more,and therefore negate its use entirely...I am an engineer and have used and continue to use ALL types of torque,force and strain assessment tools. I have also fitted cylinder heads to Cummins and Caterpillar engines,in countries and situations where the torque figures and wrenches were not available at the time,and have managed fine. I LOVE gadgets,tools (spent kids inheritance),meters etc but feel that lads are missing out when they go straight for the "tool" before understanding its' values and advantages. My long gone great aunt was an expert pastry cook,she had scales,measure and oven thermometers...She never used ANY of them,and her mince pies and christmas cake was the best..:bow:

 

[Geordie Spark]

I believe that nobody should purchase a torque screwdriver,until they are 100% confident about torquing a fitting or termination,without one. I can see their use on production line or repetition work,or as a companies attempt to prove QC. If you used one on any new DB,10 different sparks would find 11 screws not to their standard...For example,they ONLY assess torque,pure and simple. They cannot assess things like wear,friction,direction or material. If you,say,tightened 12 screws using a torque driver,set to the required torque,and you felt No.3 needed another squeak,what do you do? ...Leave it alone,risk a problem,and blame the driver or setting? ...or give it a bit more,and therefore negate its use entirely...I am an engineer and have used and continue to use ALL types of torque,force and strain assessment tools. I have also fitted cylinder heads to Cummins and Caterpillar engines,in countries and situations where the torque figures and wrenches were not available at the time,and have managed fine. I LOVE gadgets,tools (spent kids inheritance),meters etc but feel that lads are missing out when they go straight for the "tool" before understanding its' values and advantages. My long gone great aunt was an expert pastry cook,she had scales,measure and oven thermometers...She never used ANY of them,and her mince pies and christmas cake was the best..:bow:

Well said that man!!

Absolutely spot-on!!!

 

[Pete999]

I believe that nobody should purchase a torque screwdriver,until they are 100% confident about torquing a fitting or termination,without one. I can see their use on production line or repetition work,or as a companies attempt to prove QC. If you used one on any new DB,10 different sparks would find 11 screws not to their standard...For example,they ONLY assess torque,pure and simple. They cannot assess things like wear,friction,direction or material. If you,say,tightened 12 screws using a torque driver,set to the required torque,and you felt No.3 needed another squeak,what do you do? ...Leave it alone,risk a problem,and blame the driver or setting? ...or give it a bit more,and therefore negate its use entirely...I am an engineer and have used and continue to use ALL types of torque,force and strain assessment tools. I have also fitted cylinder heads to Cummins and Caterpillar engines,in countries and situations where the torque figures and wrenches were not available at the time,and have managed fine. I LOVE gadgets,tools (spent kids inheritance),meters etc but feel that lads are missing out when they go straight for the "tool" before understanding its' values and advantages. My long gone great aunt was an expert pastry cook,she had scales,measure and oven thermometers...She never used ANY of them,and her mince pies and christmas cake was the best..:bow:

So Peg your Aunt was torqued how to make pies well then lol

 

[nickblake]

If you use Schneider CDU's then don't buy their screw driver, torque setting for a 32 amp mcb say 3.5nm screw driver does 3.4 or 3.6nm well done Schneider so you either under tighten or over tighten

 

[Dcf]

Got a loan of a klauke torque driver today for a board change.
unconvinced would be the verdict.
seems pretty sturdy with settings from 1.5nm to 3nm I think.
Schneider easy9 recommends 2.5nm for everything but I thought it was way too tight for rcbo connections and set it to 1.5nm
also when torquing up a 1mm conductor vs a 16mm there is no need to crush a 1.0mm with 2.5nm of torque where as the 16.0mm will need it
nothing that a standard irazola won't do
i can see this being a standard item in the future unfortunately.
58 quid ex vat in eddies

 

[nickblake]

Got a loan of a klauke torque driver today for a board change.
unconvinced would be the verdict.
seems pretty sturdy with settings from 1.5nm to 3nm I think.
Schneider easy9 recommends 2.5nm for everything but I thought it was way too tight for rcbo connections and set it to 1.5nm
also when torquing up a 1mm conductor vs a 16mm there is no need to crush a 1.0mm with 2.5nm of torque where as the 16.0mm will need it
nothing that a standard irazola won't do
i can see this being a standard item in the future unfortunately.
58 quid ex vat in eddies

no they dont they have different settings for each mcb from 1.5nm to 3.5mn there instruction manual is very confusing funny thing is there screw driver wont do the settings, they ask if they state that torque setting then do it at that setting

 

[Geordie Spark]

If you use Schneider CDU's then don't buy their screw driver, torque setting for a 32 amp mcb say 3.5nm screw driver does 3.4 or 3.6nm well done Schneider so you either under tighten or over tighten

So there's not much point in having it!!

Keep your money in your pocket and just learn how to use an ordinary screwdriver properly. Any half-decent engineer will show you.

 

[trev]

Unfortunately Fatha we're all going to have to have them soon otherwise it will invalidate warranties.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Unfortunately Fatha we're all going to have to have them soon otherwise it will invalidate warranties.

Whey telt ye that son .. Not another load of EU bowlocks is it??

Them should be telt te Foxtrot Oscar!!

 

[Robert Turnbull]

I've been told by the NICEIC That I should be using These on CU's to tighten to Manufactures specs there is a Reg that states something along these lines.....

Load of crap i use a MCB Driver if its handy, thats about as far as I go...