Twin and earth in pipe...

[Dustydazzler]

I have popped this in the video section but thought it might make an interesting debate

Handyman Chris has fitted some nice pvc pipe for his cable but rather than use conventional singles has pulled in twin and earth. Which seems odd when you have gone to the effort of fitting conduit pipe why pull in twin and earth.
If you are going to use twin and earth might as well just surface clip it imo

Thoughts

 

[richy3333]

I’ve just endure part 2. There’s so much that’s wrong and highlights imho that this guy has had proper training and knows what he’s talking about. Regrettably the public will watch this and use it as a guide to wire up a shed ?
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Sorry, just got to run back to tool station to buy some more tat!

 

[Cid]

Stop knocking toolstation and screwfix. They are really handy for most small bits and pieces. The wholesalers are not always within easy reach or have everything in stock!

 

[Dustydazzler]

Part 2 - [Warning it’s blooming long winded]...

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Stop knocking toolstation and screwfix. They are really handy for most small bits and pieces. The wholesalers are not always within easy reach or have everything in stock!

Love s bit of screwfix and toolstation

The Led bulbs I have in my house were on sale at screwfix for 99p each and not one failure in 3.5 years thus far...

 

[Kidsolo]

Even thou it is only a garage, it still looks terrible. What if the owner eventually turns it into a man cave or something similar.

Doing an amateurish job and trying to convince everyone via youtube that you are doing the job of a professional is just being a snakeoil salesman.

 

[pirate]

Maybe two nuts on threaded end of earth rod, nut driver in impact driver?

Dusk to dawn sensor...maybe some round black cable to fit the gland properly and prevent UV degradation?

Lighting...so much cable and plastic conduit...maybe quinetic switches to save cabling to switch drops?

 

[richy3333]

@Cid why can’t we (or I) knock TS or SF? Do you have shares in them ?

I’m guessing for the majority of the country wholesalers and these DIY outlets are very close to each other.

If TS and/or SF are proper wholesalers how come they don’t sell Hager products. And in the context of the video why don’t they sell Marshall Tufftex conduit?

It looks (to me) very amateurish that the chap in the video had to keep nipping off to buy stuff (poor planning and preparation) and then returns laden with carrier bags; particularly in the context of the ‘rough as a badgers’ ar&e job he did with numerous electrical theory and practical application mistakes.

But that’s just my 2cents...

 

[Cid]

I think people are jumping the gun. In jobs like this the cable routing would have been agreed with the customer beforehand. Perhaps they want to hang stuff above the sockets?

 

[KennyKen]

Let's be serious. There are perfectly good wall cavities there, why would you use any conduit at all? Conduit doesn't only look terrible, it is going to derate the cable.
Be professional and put the cables where they belong.... out of sight.

I forgot you Aussies can’t do steel conduit.

Like someone else said Hindsight is a wonderful thing. If the shed was a carcass then great... no conduits. Professional Job. Hooray

What would be your suggestions in that situation? Catenary wire?

 

[Dustydazzler]

What do they use for surface wiring in Australia ?
In other parts of the world they use metal flexibility conduit or thin walled metal ridged tubing for example...

 

[KennyKen]

Plastic conduit. Different diameter thicknesses, Different colour depending on application. Orange underground. Grey power, white for comms.

Catenary wires, Cable tray etc for other applications.

Steel Conduit for heavy industrial although most of the time it’s stop start.

Plastic enclosures....Unless your doing EEHA junction boxes

 

[Simon47]

Stop knocking toolstation and screwfix. They are really handy for most small bits and pieces.

I agree. Open longer & at weekends. Stock some stuff that wholesalers don't - but don't stock other stuff that wholesalers do. Order online to reserve stock for pickup.
Don't get me wrong, I use wholesalers for most stuff, but SF & TS are useful to have around.
Earlier in the year I needed some specialist screws - self drilling and galved for decking. By far the easiest and cheapest place to get them was TS. I also didn't need to over-buy as I knew that worst case would mean day or two for local (to job) TS to get them in (actually had them in stock). That was also long way from home so didn't know who the local wholesalers were.

 

[davesparks]

Let's be serious. There are perfectly good wall cavities there, why would you use any conduit at all? Conduit doesn't only look terrible, it is going to derate the cable.
Be professional and put the cables where they belong.... out of sight.

Well installed conduit doesn't look terrible, and the effect on cable rating is normally minimal, less than the effect of being in contact with insulation in the wall.

In a workshop having surface conduit means there are no hidden cables to be damaged when anything I fixed to the walls and it makes alteration nice an easy

 

[Robson689]

Maybe two nuts on threaded end of earth rod, nut driver in impact driver?

Dusk to dawn sensor...maybe some round black cable to fit the gland properly and prevent UV degradation?

Lighting...so much cable and plastic conduit...maybe quinetic switches to save cabling to switch drops?

Can't beat a 20lb sledge for the occasional rod installer... Baffles me how many YouTube people you see putting them in with a little claw hammer