uksparks
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I've just done a load of work for a ukip bloke, nice bloke but I won't vote for him!
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Well when a company with a tory minister on their board of directors wins an NHS contract despite bidding £7 million more than the NHS organisation themselves what do you expect people to think?
Reduce the deficit? That's a laugh. They've borrowed more in 5 years than Labour did in 13. The deficit is not being reduced by this cokehead chancellor.
What would happen if no one in the whole of the uk cast a vote, for any party?
trev. FFS give up on the borrowing line. If ed balls had been in charge the debt would have been bigger. End of
You're entirely missing the point Clive. The tories call it Labour's recession as if they caused it when we all know, at least those of us with a modicum of intelligence do, that it was caused by the betting shop economics that the banks wanted. No political party had the balls to stop it or rein it in a little.
However, the fact remains. Borrowing has grown exponentially (almost) under this government but they try to convince us that they have it under control when the exact opposite is true. 5 years on you can't blame it on what ever conceived mess was left behind by the last lot. They promised to eliminate it within 1 parliament, it was one of their whiteboard promises "if we don't do this, in 5 years time kick us out"
Well they've screwed up on that and every other promise made by Cameron on that board and Britain has become worse under them. More foodbanks, more homelessness, a worsening NHS, less police, less firefighters, more division in society, worsening public services.
Ill list each response :-
1- In who's opinion!
2- Both Labour and the Conservatives have introduced sectional privatisation of the NHS... all UKIP said was certain areas would benefit from been run by private companies not in the slightest did they say they will privatise the NHS ... thats just media propaganda.
3-Abolish most public services ..so list them and show your evidence..
4-Sorry bit all parties are in some form or fashion regardless what you think.
5- The vote concerned was not about ivory, but a wide ranging motion calling for the EU to take more powers and spend more money harmonising law across Europe.
• These harmonisation moves frequently threaten to water down existing UK legislation which is already more than fit for purpose, as in this case. They get ‘averaged down’ to a European standard, making our laws less effective. What we saw was other parties picking at the ashes and twisting it beyond its intent.
6- look at the Labour or conservatives .. they are all guilty of the same crime with there members and to a greater extent.
7- This is just an attack on the wealthy ..considering over 90% of tax revenue is paid by the wealthy to support the poor to start with; all it is is just a misguided argument to win votes ...**** the rich off they will move and the poor will end up been taxed more ...something Labour ignores when screaming its policies to win votes, under the last government 1million on disability benefits dropped there claims when challenged and some had been on them for decades.. how many billions wasted do we ask?
8- Any party with a slight right wing stance will attract this kind of group ... this was the downfall of EDL, you need to watch the birth of EDL documentary and Tommy Robinson to how these extreme scum can hi-jack a movement and give them a bad name.... as UKIP stands it attracts them solely on its stance for controlled immigration and the idea of a Australia type points system which had served the Australians very well for decades.
9- Renewable energy scam has been proven so many times by independent bodies to be a waste of money .... Wind farms are fine but we need wind 24/7, solar power is still not cost effective to the government and all those paying back into the grid are been payed by not the energy companies but the tax payers....win win for the power suppliers a lose lose for the tax payer and a good deal for the first generation of solar panel customers.
10-Abolishing minimum wage is again taken out of context - what they wanted was to let employee's hire people with mental and physical disabilities and pay them a reduced wage in line with there disabilty .... this has seen good response from many charities and care homes that understand the benefits people can get from having a chance to feel less than worthless, in its trials its been very successful but is limited by existing minimum wage rules...all those interviewed would happily take work under the minimum wage because they cannot be expected to perform like an abled person.
Did you go back as far as post #8 where MDJ was speculating about the tories charging for doctors' appointments?Incorrect Adam. You're the one who brought the NHS into the discussion, not me. Go back and check, I did
When the tories completely remove your pension and make you pay to see a doctor which could well happen, do not come on here moaning.
Wen you've all finished arguing can you all please just vote SNP
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