Unable to upgrade/add main bonding?

[sparky3366]

What happens when you go to a job to wire a boiler and there is no way to get a 10mm to the gas meter or water stop tap? If I had to run a new supply instead of using existing, how do I stand?
on an old TT system that is in need of serious work, rcd not working (!!!) and old black wylex 4 way board...

 

[telectrix]

there is always a way

 

[sparky3366]

30m conduit run external, a days job...boss wont wear that though...flat roof extension newly decorated and customer wont have damage. concrete floors all ground floor. The owner is selling the house in 2 years time...

 

[ringer]

As Tel says - there is always a way. It is then just a matter of how much that would cost. If the customer is unable to eat the cost, then you have to walk away. I know someone else with fewer ethics will then do the job, but it is you reputation, your livelihood, and potentially your liberty that is at stake.

 

[Engineer54]

You sure it's an RCD, and not an ELCB If the installations that old ?? Either way, that RCD has got to be Replaced, end of story!!!!

 

[sparky3366]

Sorry...ELCB

 

[telectrix]

is there existing boning to gas and water in 6mm? if so, then that's ok on a TTsystem, but you'll have to upgrade the CU and RCD all circuits.

 

[Engineer54]

Sorry...ELCB

If it's ELCB get it out of there ASAP, ....and replace with a suitably sized RCB!! Those dammed things never worked too well at the best of times!!

 

[sparky3366]

the firm or customer wont pay for it...no bonding to gas or water. As a temporary solution I ran a 10mm to the boiler and cross bonded supplies there. Not right I know, but the job was a government grant job for the heating...

 

[Deleted member 9648]

If there is no bonding and they wont pay for it to be done no alterations or additions to the existing install should be carried out...(technically!)

 

[sparky3366]

that puts me in a spot though, i cant refuse to do the job...i will get the boot and i really need the money

 

[telectrix]

who is doing the certificate for your work?

 

[sparky3366]

supposed to be me but im not happy in the least about putting my name to it, even if i list the immediate faults. If it was my own job I wouldve walked...

 

[telectrix]

then your best option is to put the lackm of bonding on the cert, and the fact that the customer refuses to have it remedied. make a couple of copies, oine to keep, one for your company, and then issue a condemnation notice.

 

[sparky3366]

does the firm have to inform labc?