Unbelivable!

[High Tower]

So, popped into a large national estate agents that i work for, to add a couple of sockets for them, simple job, nice and easy with a early finish.

The board was changed and a PIR done in 2010, the companys policy is no codes are acceptable, has to be a clean pass. that in mind have a look at what i came across, the original contractor was a big firm based in Nottingham. no wonder they are always cheper than us!


Cheap crappy CU with 3 blanks missing


Ip Rating compromised


Trunking really has seen better days


6mm2 gas bond on a 100A supply and abandoned switch gear still live


Perfect connections to the time clock!


Is there anything that people wont use a 951 clamp for?

 

[Guitarist]

if the cables are to enter the CU through the top surface, it's 99% they are surface mount, so what's wrong with enclosing the cables in trunking down to the CU?

Nothing wrong at all Tel
I still prefer just to space off 15mm and come in through the back.

 

[High Tower]

if the cables are to enter the CU through the top surface, it's 99% they are surface mount, so what's wrong with enclosing the cables in trunking down to the CU?

That's probably how I'm going to have to sort this

 

[Engineer54]

Love the earthing on that SY cable, that has to be a classic!! lol!!

 

[GLENNSPARK]

So, popped into a large national estate agents that i work for, to add a couple of sockets for them, simple job, nice and easy with a early finish.

The board was changed and a PIR done in 2010, the companys policy is no codes are acceptable, has to be a clean pass. that in mind have a look at what i came across, the original contractor was a big firm based in Nottingham. no wonder they are always cheper than us!

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Cheap crappy CU with 3 blanks missing

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Ip Rating compromised

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Trunking really has seen better days

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6mm2 gas bond on a 100A supply and abandoned switch gear still live

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Perfect connections to the time clock!

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Is there anything that people wont use a 951 clamp for?

hmm....
another `dummy` outfit then...

 

[Clive P]

Hi,
How can somebody possibly do a job like that, and walk away from it. That cannot be called Electrical work, it's beyond words.

Regards.

 

[HandySparks]

Your all thinking along the lines of using the pressed knockouts. Why, if you need to maintain IP values, not use stuffing glands, they are available for flat cables as well as the normal round cable. OK you need to drill your entries into the CU, but how hard is that?? ...It's not as if you'll need to do this on every CU you install, only those that for one reason or another, requires an IP rating to be maintained!!

E54, all enclosures require a minimum IP rating to be maintained. It's not just about dust and water ingress, but about preventing access.
BS7671 Amdt 1, 416.2.1 and 416.2.2 require IPXXB or IP2X on all faces and IPXXD or IP4X on accessible top surfaces.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Since when was Nottingham a foreign city?

It is to a Geordie!!

 

[Geordie Spark]

That'll be a waste of ink and paper sure enough!! It'll be straight into file #13!! lol!!

It certainly will be if the MP is one of the Labour party's Chuckle Brothers.

 

[HandySparks]

Your all thinking along the lines of using the pressed knockouts. Why, if you need to maintain IP values, not use stuffing glands, they are available for flat cables as well as the normal round cable. OK you need to drill your entries into the CU, but how hard is that?? ...It's not as if you'll need to do this on every CU you install, only those that for one reason or another, requires an IP rating to be maintained!!

E54, all enclosures require a minimum IP rating to be maintained. It's not just about water and dust ingress, but access to live parts (which is what we're talking about here).
BS7671, Amdt 1: 416.2.1 and 416.2.2 say that all surfaces to be at least IPXXB or IP2X and accessible horizontal top surfaces to be at least IPXXD or IP4X.


Edit: Sorry, just spotted the double post. The first one appeared not to work.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Nothing wrong at all Tel
I still prefer just to space off 15mm and come in through the back.

............ as the Bishop may have said to the actress.

 

[Midwest]

Still go back to my point, if one manufacturer see's a need, surley the others should? Maintaining IP rating that is :dizzy2:

 

[tigerpaul]

Does this well known firm go by the name of .........&.....house ?

 

[Anton]

it must just be old battered work, surely no spark has left that in that condition

 

[High Tower]

it must just be old battered work, surely no spark has left that in that condition

Board change was 2010

 

[High Tower]

Does this well known firm go by the name of .........&.....house ?

Nope!!