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[stan794]

What is it with people, small job on but advised upgrading earthing conductor etc (6mm at mo), was told sod off aint paying any more just want my external light going in and the other guy said he would do it for cash if no cert. Whats the point?

 

[AP Electrical]

Dammed if you do, dammed if you dont - it's a cowboys paradise perpepuated by part P

 

[Octopus]

I don't thinks it down to part P - the cash in hand is more down to people avoiding tax.

re the 6mm - what is the Ze? Zs where you want to add the point?

Customers do have a point as the "upgrade" aspect isn't enforced by anyone and for an outside light its hardly life threatening - unless you're planning a lighting array to illuminate Wembley Stadium.

 

[stan794]

Ze is ok 0.28, but she also asked for a quote for a garage cu and rewire that was when i mentioned the earthing arrangements and she went off on one. So not sure if the other guy is doing light only or the garage as well, bloody people.

 

[Octopus]

Did you call the technical line of your scheme and see what they would suggest??

 

[stan794]

Nah i walked away mate, can see her being a problem when it comes to paying, met her type many times before, still peeves me off though lol

 

[i=p/u]

sure you suppose to check all earthing arrangments before anywork commmences.. definatly if no additional protection from rcd's.. but does it happen does it heck

 

[Knobhead]

It’s the customer that’s paying.

To be honest if you, as an electrician came to my house to fit an outside light and then started to pad the job out with crap that has nothing to do with the bloody light, I’d be showing you the door. (If you’re lucky I’d open it first). Next stop is the local pub to find “Joe the spark”.

Get real, the regulations are a joke. I just wish I lived in the cigar smoke filled rooms of Nirvana the IEE live in. Every teaspoon would have 16mm bonding to it if I had my way!

 

[Deleted member 26818]

No smoking allowed any more.
It's all plastic cigarettes, patches and gum now.

 

[Knobhead]

In private clubs it is.

 

[AP Electrical]

Changed post

 

[i=p/u]

but if they just want to put new light up they will get it put up.. and are you making it any unsafer than was before you started

 

[R4BOE]

earthing and bonding is the biggest problem and on larger installation and industrial application the it just opens a can of worms

 

[stan794]

It’s the customer that’s paying.

To be honest if you, as an electrician came to my house to fit an outside light and then started to pad the job out with crap that has nothing to do with the bloody light, I’d be showing you the door. (If you’re lucky I’d open it first). Next stop is the local pub to find “Joe the spark”.

Get real, the regulations are a joke. I just wish I lived in the cigar smoke filled rooms of Nirvana the IEE live in. Every teaspoon would have 16mm bonding to it if I had my way!

Sorry may have misled, I only mentioned earthing when assessing what was needed for the extra work for garage, I don't pad nothing out mate.

 

[Knobhead]

OK cheers mate.

But I hope you see where I’m coming from. He who pays the piper calls the tune.