Unions?

[OhmElectrical]

Guys are any of you in and or can you recommend a good Union to join.
I just want to think and cover myself as I feel changes could be on the way and I'm not sure how I could be affected

 

[dingledong]

I think so but is green onions a good sound

 

[dingledong]

I agree Eddie but what would happen to Labour without block voting and money from the unions

 

[telectrix]

good as it gets.

Booker T and the MG's - Green Onions - Bass Cover - YouTube

 

[Diddy]

Well put indeed
But I have 2 friends working in strong union areas and the stories they say of thieving barstewards who get off because of the union or the other on the railways of absolutely useless twits who can't be sacked because of the union

And I truly do not believe the union would help a one man band but a company that has lots of members then they would help

Don't know what you mean by "help" but if you are referring to the free courses then they are just that...FREE if you are a member of Unite and are registered with the Glasgow branch (No other branch has bothered to run the courses because of a lack of will of the members as the funding is there and has been shown to be there....your local Unite just need to ask glasgow how to go about it and the education officer will provide exactly how)
Other than that they could "help" you if your name appeared on a "blacklist"...subbies appear on these things too. They can "help" you if you are just starting....if you are employing apprentices ect ect ect. But as I said it really was never meant to be "what's in it for me" it was always "what's in it for us".
BTW I am no Unite lover....but I do give credit where it is due. Personally I would rather see a stand alone electrical workers union. But we have what we have and you don't change things by being a non member that much is for sure.

 

[dingledong]

Well diddy very good posts informative helpful no abuse excellent
Will give it some thought

 

[Knobhead]

Well the members vote to strike in the majority or it doesn't go ahead. I am a member of the Unite union and im self employed.....Being a member has saved me about £1000 this year and £600 ish two years ago. All through the free C & G courses that the glasgow branch of unite run. IEE regs/ Testing and inspection all free including course material (Regs book ect.) All food and drink provided too.....Like I say it has saved me a considerable amount. I am also a union member because of the work that they do and I support...like exposing blacklisting and blatant H & S breaches. Everyone moans about H & S gone mad....and yet we loose a worker per week in the construction industry....Only the unions fight this trend...no other bugger bothers.
You also point out about unions sticking up for people who "do wrong". Well we have a right to a fair hearing in this country....And it is unions who try to ensure this to happen correctly. Again if your on your own working for a firm and find yourself victimised and sacked..if your not a union member you now have to cough up your tribunal fees...union members tend to have these covered. It's all about the right to a fair hearing/trial. If an employer finds himself facing a payout then im afraid he/they have not followed the law...A law that usually is very much pro employer.

Again "im s/e" what can the union do for me ? It's not really about that and more about standing together shoulder to shoulder in order to protect the ordinary man against the excesses of the state/employers/elite/top 5% ect ect ect. I think we would have bugger all of what we "enjoy" today if it were not for collective action by unions and the like.

Are they still putting bromide in the tea?

Just get it in to your head, unions are in the same corral as the scams. Screwing as much money out of members as they can without giving anything in return.

 

[davesparks]

I am not a member of any union, but do feel the benefits of the code of conduct and rates of pay agreed by BECTU and the TMA.
But it is now becoming increasingly rare for theatres to actually pay 'TMA rate' to their staff.
We hear stories of the theatres charging TMA rates to the touring shows but only paying their staff minimum wage.

It makes working in commercial theatre just about bearable financially.

 

[Pete999]

Are they still putting bromide in the tea?

Just get it in to your head, unions are in the same corral as the scams. Screwing as much money out of members as they can without giving anything in return.

I guess Tony's not a Union man then lol

 

[Geordie Spark]

You saying I'm slow like? :dita: :59:

Slow but steady pet.

 

[Geordie Spark]

I think so but is green onions a good sound

Right on Man!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bpS-cOBK6Q

 

[mayfair]

look at what the great Mr Scargill achevied. bugger all

 

[dingledong]

Except lining his pocket

 

[Knobhead]

I guess Tony's not a Union man then lol

I started as an apprentice in a closed shop, no choice but be a union member.

Steward four years, six years a convenor. Eric Hammond sold us down the river and I’ll never forgive him.

 

[dingledong]

He's dead now so let bygones be bygones hmmm? ?

 

[ipf]

I agree Eddie but what would happen to Labour without block voting and money from the unions

And what would happen to the tories without their gift funds from people and organisations that don't suffer one little bit from the loss of vast amounts of cash.... Looking for a party funding scandal? Try David Cameron's Conservatives | Aditya Chakrabortty | Comment is free | The Guardian