USA politics, recent events.

[plugsandsparks]

I generally agreed with most things he DID, i usually grimaced at most things he said.

In my view he had the right approach to:
1. Dealing with illegal immigration
2. Dealing with Nato contributions
3. Dealing with WHO - *ucking waste of space
4. Dealing with China
5. Dealing with Globalisation.
6. Dealing with foreign "enemies"
7. Dealing with CNN (that really did make me laugh)
8 Dealing with Climate Change nonsense "agreement"

I also sympathised with his reaction to postal voting , in fact both in the UK and i guess in the US voting is woefully open to fraud and mass manipulation which largely favours the lefties, anyone remember Peterborough ?

 

[littlespark]

I try not to listen to certain things, knowing how the media can spin things in or out of favour....

but there is live video footage of Mr Trump opening his mouth and shoving his foot in it.
His Covid suggestion of injecting disinfectant was posed as a question, but somebody somewhere will take him seriously... or did they? Did a woman really die from doing this, or is that false?

 

[pc1966]

Reading some of it shows little to nothing special, just internal investigations that lead nowhere but stuff like JFK has you questioning everything we were told by the then government and media.

I always question what the government and media tell me, but equally I see a lot of conspiracy theories and the folk that follow them, including some of my friends, and I weep.

In particular there are a specific few that I happen to have rather more inside knowledge that most and I can see they are complete and utter -------s. Now it does not follow that ALL are complete BS, but it justifies my own adherence to Occam's razor and Hanlon's razor.

It seems we live in an age where folk end up in one camp or another and they believe all that is said in justification of their own beliefs to the exclusion of reason and sense. I can accept and respect view to the left and to the right that make sense even if I do not subscribe to them myself. But what we are seeing now is simply BS and Trump was the biggest proponent of all with the "alternate facts" and "fake news" excuse for everything that did not make him look good or he did not agree with.

 

[Midwest]

Pointless thread.

He's gone. Couldn't self tan properly, couldn't make a speech as a politician to save his life, until he told his supporters to storm government buildings.

Might as well start a Flat Earth thread.

 

[Darkwood]

What is worrying is the company that is linked to the US counting machines is linked to another company which supplied the voting machines that are now in use in London.
The evidence of corruption I have personally seen regarding the USA leaves me in no doubt it was a targeted mass fraud attack on the swing states of the USA, the media is actually playing it smart and so are legal council when they say they have not seen any evidence of fraud, they probably haven't because the courts have been stonewalling the evidence from ever getting to be put in front of judge and jury, so technically they can say they haven't seen any.
Having said that, this legal fight has not disappeared, there is court orders now been placed on some counties to force a full audit, even with this order in force they are still stonewalling and looking for ways to get out of it.
Imagine if the estimate 160,000 - 300,000 votes in this contended state are proven fraudulent, it would scupper the whole election and a political uprising would occur.

Watch this space and especially the military response, Trump is smarter than many give him credit and things are about to get interesting.

PS did anyone see the military all turn their back on Biden when he passed in the car... I doubt you did as the media didn't want that to be seen.

 

[Darkwood]

Pointless thread.

He's gone. Couldn't self tan properly, couldn't make a speech as a politician to save his life, until he told his supporters to storm government buildings.

Might as well start a Flat Earth thread.

Re' tan - agree
Re' speech - agree to some extent but he didn't tell anyone to storm capital hill, the media and democrats said that, Capital Hill was stormed while Trump had 20mins of speech left at a location 40mins away, the people who arrived from that speech were over an hour late for that event, like I said in another thread, it has already been established and people have been charged that it was orchestrated by BLM and Antifa activists who had planned it for over a week, but like I keep saying, the media do not want that narrative to come out given they have been hating on Trump for 4yrs.

PS what is this about Flat Earth... you saying it isn't flat?

 

[GBDamo]

What is worrying is the company that is linked to the US counting machines is linked to another company which supplied the voting machines that are now in use in London.
The evidence of corruption I have personally seen regarding the USA leaves me in no doubt it was a targeted mass fraud attack on the swing states of the USA, the media is actually playing it smart and so are legal council when they say they have not seen any evidence of fraud, they probably haven't because the courts have been stonewalling the evidence from ever getting to be put in front of judge and jury, so technically they can say they haven't seen any.
Having said that, this legal fight has not disappeared, there is court orders now been placed on some counties to force a full audit, even with this order in force they are still stonewalling and looking for ways to get out of it.
Imagine if the estimate 160,000 - 300,000 votes in this contended state are proven fraudulent, it would scupper the whole election and a political uprising would occur.

Watch this space and especially the military response, Trump is smarter than many give him credit and things are about to get interesting.

PS did anyone see the military all turn their back on Biden when he passed in the car... I doubt you did as the media didn't want that to be

Just be careful what you believe.

There is an awful lot of misinformation from many angles.

Trump supporters optimistically posting videos that don't show what the purport.

Anti-Trump forces posting deliberately misleading videos to later debunk and discredit the "idiots" that believed them.

The number of "bombshells" I've seen that turn out to be damp squibs on investigating is worrying.

Having said all that Trump won that election by a landslide.

 

[FatAlan]

BLM and Antifa involvement in insurrection is fake news circulated by right wing websites. Also a major flaw in the fact that the lack of response to calls for reinforcement suggests some of those in charge in the military were Trump supporters as intimated in the first post. Ironically, military facing away from motorcade could actually be standard security protocol as in the UK. You watch the bloody crowd for threats not gaze wistfully at those driving past.
Don’t worry about our voting system being corrupt. It already is and with planned boundary changes it will be even more corrupt. Sooner we go to proportional representation the better.

 

[Darkwood]

@GBDamo
I am very cautious for that reason, I didn't listen to 3rd hand reports, I watched open public meetings over the voter fraud allegations and drew my own conclusions, the back turning was filmed numerous times, even in some mainstream media some of the soldiers have their backs turned as a deliberate act of disrespect because they simply couldn't filter it all out of the coverage.
With regards to the military, this run deeper than the election, Biden is alleged to have leaked information of secret military personal and movements which led to a whole team of seals and other military personnel been shot down and killed back in his vice president days, like I said earlier, watch this space regarding the military, from what I hear from good sources who are often pretty accurate we will see some development within the next month or two which might rock the boat big style.

 

[Darkwood]

BLM and Antifa involvement in insurrection is fake news circulated by right wing websites. Also a major flaw in the fact that the lack of response to calls for reinforcement suggests some of those in charge in the military were Trump supporters as intimated in the first post. Ironically, military facing away from motorcade could actually be standard security protocol as in the UK. You watch the bloody crowd for threats not gaze wistfully at those driving past.
Don’t worry about our voting system being corrupt. It already is and with planned boundary changes it will be even more corrupt. Sooner we go to proportional representation the better.

How is it fake when they have arrested and charged BLM and Antifa members, look up John Sullivan's arrest, one of the first they convicted, here is the story albeit the mail but I can't post the footage here given the content as it shows the killing of that women which we cannot show here.

At trial the social media posts reveal he was organising large groups and they were all kitted out for violence and just added a Trump hat and flag for effect.

Left-wing activist arrested in relation to siege on Capitol Building

John Earle Sullivan, 26, was arrested on Thursday and charged with knowingly entering a restricted building; violent entry and disorderly conduct, and interfering with law enforcement.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[FatAlan]

Still intrigued by the voter fraud allegations. Numerous court hearings, we’ll funded but no actual evidence produced to support. What about the US postal service obstructing the postal vote on Trumps directions.

 

[FatAlan]

How is it fake when they have arrested and charged BLM and Antifa members, look up John Sullivan's arrest, one of the first they convicted, here is the story albeit the mail but I can't post the footage here given the content as it shows the killing of that women which we cannot show here.

At trial the social media posts reveal he was organising large groups and they were all kitted out for violence and just added a Trump hat and flag for effect.

Left-wing activist arrested in relation to siege on Capitol Building

John Earle Sullivan, 26, was arrested on Thursday and charged with knowingly entering a restricted building; violent entry and disorderly conduct, and interfering with law enforcement.

www.dailymail.co.uk

For that I read, rent a mob youth likes to turn up for riots etc like BLM, and Capitol Hill invasion arrested. If the events happened the other way round he’d be accused of being a right wing Trump supporter. Spin by the right wing Daily Mail. If any more evidence comes to light as to his being involved in a left wing conspiracy I’ll stand corrected. Good thing is, he was arrested.

 

[LastManOnline]

Just going to start a thread regarding USA politics and recent events as well as events related to and preceding Trump's presidency.

As a moderator can I ask you what your policy is towards forum members who want to start threads advocating support for their political views?

 

[GBDamo]

Still intrigued by the voter fraud allegations. Numerous court hearings, we’ll funded but no actual evidence produced to support. What about the US postal service obstructing the postal vote on Trumps directions.

59 cases were brought before various US courts and not a single case was heard.

Its not that they had no evidence its that the courts used legal technicalities to avoid having to hear the cases.

All the cases were refused hearing for one of, Laches, Standing or Grounds.

Laches;- That you've waited too long to bring your case.

Standing;- That you have suffered sufficiently from the law breaking to bring the case.

Grounds; A lot more complex but essentially that a law has been broken.

Lin Wood had a full house where he challenged changes made to the Georgia election system and the case was thrown out on Grounds, no law had been broken. The case was resubmitted after the election and was thrown out on Standing, as a none Georgia resident he had no loss in law. Finally when the case was resubmitted including Georgia residents as plaintiffs, the case was thrown out on Laches, they'd waited too long.


So to recap, it is inaccurate to claim there was no evidence it is fact that no court would hear the evidence.

You're more than welcome to prove me wrong.

 

[Darkwood]

@LastManOnline

Given I am guilty in part of doing this myself then I have no issue as long as it isn't a extremist group as such.
We are open to all political views but if one is to make claims we ask that you can substantiate them with citations and evidence where relevant, if you have nothing specific to back a view up then word it in a way where we know you are just given your personal opinion.
If you are hosting a political thread it would be good to establish which side you sit on from the off.