Wall lights

[dave992]

Hi all, had an argument with a guy at work today just wanted your take on thing. I said that connection behind a wall light must be placed within an en-closer like a back box or something similar and can not be block connectors within a wall which you see a lot of? Agree with me not.

Thanks

 

[telectrix]

sometimes not possible as you'll find there's nothing to fix the light to.

 

[RyanCheetham]

I like use architrave boxes behind the fitting or bring the cable into the fitting itself. Just shoving the connectors into the wall seems very DIY

 

[sparkdog]

I use Wago connectors if no other option.A bit more insulated than connector block.

 

[Silly Sausage]

I use Wago connectors if no other option.A bit more insulated than connector block.

Still need to be enclosed, with cable restraint.

 

[Richard Burns]

An enclosure can be partially formed by the non combustible building fabric, but any connection should be fully enclosed, so being able to see parts of it is not good.

 

[Adam W]

I don't see that a backbox is going to bring much to the party so to speak; presumably the connector block will only be accessible when the wall light is unscrewed from the wall, and many wall lights are designed with the back open to the wall.
In a commercial environment where the wall light is designed to be fixed to an enclosure such as a conduit box then yes I would, but IMO that falls under following manufacturer's instructions, which goes without saying.

 

[davesparks]

If first fixing for wall lights and with a good idea of whether the fittings will cover a horizontal or vertical architrave box then I will fit an architrave box for the connections.
If fitting them to an existing position or a rewire/addition to an existing then the plaster is suitably non combustible to form the back of the enclosure for the connections.

 

[Plonker 3]

Are we talking about a stud wall with the connections pushed back into the stud work, or a solid wall with the connections between the light fitting and the wall itself?

 

[Andy78]

Make sure you choose decent wall lights that have provision for connections within the body of the fitting...

 

[Plonker 3]

Make sure you choose decent wall lights that have provision for connections within the body of the fitting...

Yeah because customers always think of us when buying the light fittings :rofl:

 

[Andy78]

That's not true Dillb, they think about us just as much as the designers do when making light fittings

 

[dave992]

The light fittings are on a brick wall and the wall light doesn't allow you to terminated within the fitting. Pick this up on a EICR, and report the fault Reg 526.5, just wanted to see what you think?

Thanks

 

[Plonker 3]

Bugger

 

[SPARTYKUS]

Do you think a brick wall is combustiable?

Of course it is. At about 3000 degrees centigrade.