What am I allowed to do in Scotland?

[RuraidhBoy]

I'm looking to remove the shaver socket in our bathroom because it's never been used, but apparently this might be "notifiable" or "certifiable" under updated regs as it's "altering" a circuit in the bathroom.

A google led me to Part P but this doesn't apply in Scotland. So...searching and trying to navigate the Scottish building regs is a total mess, going round in circles. It's like someone has taken Part P and re-written it into 80 pages. I'm reading stuff about competent person is no longer applicable and now has to be done by a "qualified" person but they don't specify what qualified actually means. I've been out of the industry for about 30 years but I have a degree is in EEE. I'm sure that I'm competent enough to remove the socket and make it safe - but am I qualified?

Surely I don't need to pay a spark to do this and certify it? Can anyone clarify?

 

[Mike Johnson]

Why bother removing it?

 

[littlespark]

If it was faulty, you could replace it under repair and maintenance without a certificate…. So disconnecting it completely shouldn’t need it.

There are many DIY projects going on across the country where a certificate is never going to be produced for the work done….. and in your case, how is anybody ever going to know.

If it’s a newish house, it could simply be fed from the nearest switch… just disconnect the live and neutral from there.

 

[Jock from the north]

I'm looking to remove the shaver socket in our bathroom because it's never been used, but apparently this might be "notifiable" or "certifiable" under updated regs as it's "altering" a circuit in the bathroom.

A google led me to Part P but this doesn't apply in Scotland. So...searching and trying to navigate the Scottish building regs is a total mess, going round in circles. It's like someone has taken Part P and re-written it into 80 pages. I'm reading stuff about competent person is no longer applicable and now has to be done by a "qualified" person but they don't specify what qualified actually means. I've been out of the industry for about 30 years but I have a degree is in EEE. I'm sure that I'm competent enough to remove the socket and make it safe - but am I qualified?

Surely I don't need to pay a spark to do this and certify it? Can anyone clarify?

If you feel your compedent then just remove it.just be carefull as it will most probably be part of lighting circuit ie feed in feed out or if your lucky it might be fed direct from light switch.if there is 2 cables you will have the problem of having to join them unless you can pull them up into loft (not sure of house layout) if your planning on covering the whole then the cables wouldn't be accessible. The only way round that is to use a maintenance free junction box ,but it's not ideal hiding cables behind walls

 

[RuraidhBoy]

If you feel your compedent then just remove it.just be carefull as it will most probably be part of lighting circuit ie feed in feed out or if your lucky it might be fed direct from light switch.if there is 2 cables you will have the problem of having to join them unless you can pull them up into loft (not sure of house layout) if your planning on covering the whole then the cables wouldn't be accessible. The only way round that is to use a maintenance free junction box ,but it's not ideal hiding cables behind walls

Yeah, I'm fairly competent/confident. When I started, I had to work alongside the sparks installing distribution boards etc then I got stuck behind a desk to be an engineer. Hated it but the skills stayed with me.

Everything is currently back to studs as part of the renovation so I know where everything is wired and I'll take care of that no probs. It's the notification stuff - don't want to say too much on here but I don't have the luxury of doing it and hoping no one knows.

Frustrating that because I don't have a certification, I have to get a spark in, and where I am, I'm looking at 8-10 weeks. Too small a job.

 

[RuraidhBoy]

If it was faulty, you could replace it under repair and maintenance without a certificate…. So disconnecting it completely shouldn’t need it.

There are many DIY projects going on across the country where a certificate is never going to be produced for the work done….. and in your case, how is anybody ever going to know.

If it’s a newish house, it could simply be fed from the nearest switch… just disconnect the live and neutral from there.

Can't say too much on here but, its a renovation and unfortunately, it will be known. Bummer.

 

[Jock from the north]

I'm looking to remove the shaver socket in our bathroom because it's never been used, but apparently this might be "notifiable" or "certifiable" under updated regs as it's "altering" a circuit in the bathroom.

A google led me to Part P but this doesn't apply in Scotland. So...searching and trying to navigate the Scottish building regs is a total mess, going round in circles. It's like someone has taken Part P and re-written it into 80 pages. I'm reading stuff about competent person is no longer applicable and now has to be done by a "qualified" person but they don't specify what qualified actually means. I've been out of the industry for about 30 years but I have a degree is in EEE. I'm sure that I'm competent enough to remove the socket and make it safe - but am I qualified?

Surely I don't need to pay a spark to do this and certify it? Can anyone clarify?

If you havnt applied for a building warrant then from what I gather the scottish bs only reccomend electrical works in homes etc are done by a sparky who is part of a government scheme.total boll£££s .it discrimination forcing experienced electricians to pay 1200 a year just to have a sticker on there van.thats what I'm being charged and to be honest it ain't worth it .