Hey all.
I am a fully qualified sparky - 30+ years. Recently started working as project manager (my knees are shot!) for a security company doing mainly CCTV, intruder and now.. fire.
The MD cannot be told anything. He has designed a few systems (he has design experience - but his qualifications have expired). I have told him to get that sorted straight off.
But, we have sent a couple of lads off to NICEIC on a fundamentals, commissioning and maintenance course for fire alarms. We still need to get on the installation course.
All that seems to have done is put the frighteners on the lads.
MD insists its all easy.. just google the regs and we don't even have to comply to BS 5839 if we say we are not installing to that standard (rolls eyes).
So... today we look at a business premises (store) and he has designed a system with no detectors in the storage warehouse, only break glass units. he baffles on about how its a cat3? zone or something and therefore doesn't need sensors. I have no idea and don't pretend to know.
All I know, is its got to be right.
Part of his quote is to convert the old analogue system to a new addressable one, but to use the old cabling.
I pointed out that we may have to ensure that cabling is installed correctly. He says... its old, so we can mark it down as an exemption to the regs.
Surely if we re-use it on a new system, we should ensure its correctly installed.
Being a commercial shop, does it involve building regs?
I understand that as long as we are competent installers, then we can fit the system. As long as it complies.
FAR too many points to fall foul of here and I am really not happy about it. He thinks I am being awkward and rocking the boat.
Any thoughts?
I am a fully qualified sparky - 30+ years. Recently started working as project manager (my knees are shot!) for a security company doing mainly CCTV, intruder and now.. fire.
The MD cannot be told anything. He has designed a few systems (he has design experience - but his qualifications have expired). I have told him to get that sorted straight off.
But, we have sent a couple of lads off to NICEIC on a fundamentals, commissioning and maintenance course for fire alarms. We still need to get on the installation course.
All that seems to have done is put the frighteners on the lads.
MD insists its all easy.. just google the regs and we don't even have to comply to BS 5839 if we say we are not installing to that standard (rolls eyes).
So... today we look at a business premises (store) and he has designed a system with no detectors in the storage warehouse, only break glass units. he baffles on about how its a cat3? zone or something and therefore doesn't need sensors. I have no idea and don't pretend to know.
All I know, is its got to be right.
Part of his quote is to convert the old analogue system to a new addressable one, but to use the old cabling.
I pointed out that we may have to ensure that cabling is installed correctly. He says... its old, so we can mark it down as an exemption to the regs.
Surely if we re-use it on a new system, we should ensure its correctly installed.
Being a commercial shop, does it involve building regs?
I understand that as long as we are competent installers, then we can fit the system. As long as it complies.
FAR too many points to fall foul of here and I am really not happy about it. He thinks I am being awkward and rocking the boat.
Any thoughts?