what code

[Blademan_98]

The type of comment I would make would be:
Lack of RCD protection for socket-outlets. Reg. No. xyz. Code C3.
Lack of RCD protection for circuits of a location containing a bath or shower. Reg. No. xyz. Code C3.
Lack of RCD protection for mobile equipment used outdoors. Reg. No. xyz. Code C2.
I would not explain why I have applied various codes on the form.

Thanks for that explanation, I have spent the day revising for the exam. Whilst the training material gives examples of the various codes, it does not tell you how to fill in the fields.
The notes do say it is down to the inspector to make a judgement call for each condition, just not what to put!

Cheers
B

 

[Octopus]

ESF Best Practice Guide 4, issue 4, says plastic CUs get a C3 if under wooden staircase or on a sole escape route. (And, by implication, no code if located elsewhere.)

Nice one HandySparks! I've added the wooden reference as this is the actual wording!

Heres the link for anyone to read

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=e...al+safety+first+best+practice+guide+4+issue+4

 

[rattlehead85]

I can't understand for the life of me how there is so much confusion over coding. The BPG 4 sets it out in black and white what departure warrants what code. All this stems from people who don't have enough inspection and testing knowledge picking codes out of the air an applying them without a good explanation as to why they are using such coding methods. Truth be known half of them couldn't interpret test results correctly let alone attribute relevant coding.

 

[Risteard]

No guide book can tell an Inspector who has actually seen an installation how recommendations must be made.

It is clearly stated that these are at the discretion of the Inspector.

It shouldn't even be called a Best Practice Guide, but simply the Electrical Safety Council's or whoever's opinion. That is all that it is.

 

[rattlehead85]

That's why are industry is in the **** state it is and why 80% of properties you walk into after electrical works have been completed are nothing short of shambolic.

 

[bigspark17]

No guide book can tell an Inspector who has actually seen an installation how recommendations must be made.

It is clearly stated that these are at the discretion of the Inspector.

It shouldn't even be called a Best Practice Guide, but simply the Electrical Safety Council's or whoever's opinion. That is all that it is


And where have you aeen this? How many people need to tell you coding isnt up to your personal prefrence!!

 

[HandySparks]

And where have you aeen this? How many people need to tell you coding isnt up to your personal prefrence!!

ESF best practice guide No.4 issue 4, page 12.
"It entirely a matter for the competent person conducting the inspection to decide on the Classification Code to be attributed to an observation."

For example, I might code a finger-sized hole in the surface pattress of a socket at skirting level in a childs bedroom as a C1. The same damaged socket on a garage ceiling supplying a door opener might only get a C2 from me.

 

[7029 dave]

ESF best practice guide No.4 issue 4, page 12.
"It entirely a matter for the competent person conducting the inspection to decide on the Classification Code to be attributed to an observation."

For example, I might code a finger-sized hole in the surface pattress of a socket at skirting level in a childs bedroom as a C1. The same damaged socket on a garage ceiling supplying a door opener might only get a C2 from me.

That maybe so, but your getting away from the op's question on existing installations without rcd protection, nothing to do with broken accessories.

 

[HandySparks]

That maybe so, but your getting away from the op's question on existing installations without rcd protection, nothing to do with broken accessories.

OK then, an outside socket without 30mA RCD protection would always get a C2 from me, even if it was so old that it pre-dated RCDs and complied with the regs at the time. Most inside sockets without RCD protection would get a C3.

 

[7029 dave]

OK then, an outside socket without 30mA RCD protection would always get a C2 from me, even if it was so old that it pre-dated RCDs and complied with the regs at the time. Most inside sockets without RCD protection would get a C3.

I would code the same in this instance, if it was say an outside lewden socket with no rcd protection.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

It's unlikely that an outside socket would have been installed at a time when there was no requirement for 30mA RCD protection.