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I voted remain. I like multiculturalism. I think the benefits of the European Convention on Human Rights (limits on big brother etc) outweigh the negatives. Also, the ECHR is a separate thing to being a member of the EU despite what the leave campaign misleadingly claimed, saying this is why jihadis can preach in the UK and we can't chuck them out (as if this is the only or even a good solution post the invention of the internet) is crap. Actually there are all sorts of ways we could legislate against jihadis but the main problem is the reluctance to recognise the problem (e.g. not enough people in power do, if that makes sense). I think security wise the world (not just us) is a lot worse off if the EU goes on to implode. Putin would love to divide and conquer and it would certainly make life easier for terrorist organisations too. As for the arguements about keeping Britain Britain (or England England), the modern romantic nationalism so commonly espoused without questioning why we think what we think originated in Germany (a little ironic given that the cornerstones of British nationalism for many, or at least a commonly espoused sentiment is two world wars and one world cup).
 
Most journalists/ tv reporters don't know the difference between Britain and England either.
Britain includes Scotland and Wales.. England is just England.

Oh, and TV channels? The Scottish kids have been on holiday for 3 weeks already. Don't just start putting on holiday programmes now.
 
I voted out and would do so again in a heartbeat.

I'm sure it's not going to be plain sailing, but the way the EU has been conducting itself since has only cemented my view that we will be better off out of it.

Personally as soon as they started their 'negotiation' with demands for cash, I think I would have just walked away and resorted to WTO trade rules. Not ideal, but what's being forgotten is that we, as a member, have a stake in some seriously valuable real estate. Are they going to pay us rent on the portion that our contributions helped build? I don't think so.

Sparkychick has said almost everything I was going to say, why people think its a great idea to have unelected power hungry people make the big decisions on our behalf is beyond me, also the EU has not submitted accounts for all the money we and other hard working people in Europe have paid in to this mad scheme for years, none of us would get away with not doing our accounts every year.
It's time for us to regain some pride in our country just like many others in the EU, its not just a few people in this country that want out its many many others around Europe.
 
why people think its a great idea to have unelected power hungry people make the big decisions on our behalf is beyond me dUOTE]

May and many other Prime ministers before her were not directly elected by us. Some of them at in the seat of power without even their party ever winning an election. Unelected "special advisors" whose only relevant experience is going to Eton and "daddy went to school with the minister" inform most key ministerial cabinet member decisions. I'm not even going to bother going into who, in the majority of cases, even gets to stand to be an MP and get from there to the cabinet, how we've only really got two choices in England. It's all rhetoric and unrepresentative b*llsh*t, not just the EU.
 
What is the difference?
I was born and live in England therefore I am English unfortunately very few application forms now permit this race to be used thus we are all tarred with British tag which everyone adopts to live here. Do we hear the Scots or Welsh wanting to be called British, no they use their correct tag.
 

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