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Aye ..... and we're all 'far right', 'sexist', 'racist', 'homophobic', 'transphobic', 'Islamophobic', 'anti-Semitic' 'fascists' and 'Nazis'. :rolleyes:

If wanting our country to have pride in itself again and be proud of the global contributions we've made over the course of history (and continue to make) instead of being a whiney, self-loathing lefty sheep that's been brainwashed into believing all ill's in the world are our fault means I'll be labelled any or all of those things... bring on the labels!

They are the tools of the leftist, designed to silence those they disagree with because it's easier to silence someone by claiming what they are saying is hate speech than it is to formulate a coherent counter argument to much of what is actually being said.
 
If wanting our country to have pride in itself again and be proud of the global contributions we've made over the course of history (and continue to make) instead of being a whiney, self-loathing lefty sheep that's been brainwashed into believing all ill's in the world are our fault means I'll be labelled any or all of those things... bring on the labels!

They are the tools of the leftist, designed to silence those they disagree with because it's easier to silence someone by claiming what they are saying is hate speech than it is to formulate a coherent counter argument to much of what is actually being said.

Well said SC. My sentiments exactly.

I'm not sure that you would want the label of 'white privileged male' though. :D
 
I was born and live in England therefore I am English unfortunately very few application forms now permit this race to be used thus we are all tarred with British tag which everyone adopts to live here. Do we hear the Scots or Welsh wanting to be called British, no they use their correct tag.


I was born in Scotland, I have a Scottish accent and live in England. As much as we are brought up to “hate” the English, I am a proud Britiah citizen. I love GB and since travelling to many different countries I have learned to appreciate how Great our little island is actually!
I also supported England in the World Cup which would I wouldn’t admit to most of my family.
Let’s all be proud together
 
I was born in Scotland, I have a Scottish accent and live in England. As much as we are brought up to “hate” the English, I am a proud Britiah citizen. I love GB and since travelling to many different countries I have learned to appreciate how Great our little island is actually!
I also supported England in the World Cup which would I wouldn’t admit to most of my family.
Let’s all be proud together

Like yourself, I was born in Scotland, but lived in England for almost 30 years before coming home back in 2010. I have no problem with England or its wonderful people. But those bloody English football commentators and media pundits do my nut in. :D
 
I was born and live in England therefore I am English unfortunately very few application forms now permit this race to be used thus we are all tarred with British tag which everyone adopts to live here. Do we hear the Scots or Welsh wanting to be called British, no they use their correct tag.


I was born in Scotland, I have a Scottish accent and live in England. As much as we are brought up to “hate” the English, I am a proud Britiah citizen. I love GB and since travelling to many different countries I have learned to appreciate how Great our little island is actually!
I also supported England in the World Cup which would I wouldn’t admit to most of my family.
Let’s all be proud together

Like yourself, I was born in Scotland, but lived in England for almost 30 years before coming home back in 2010. I have no problem with England or its wonderful people. But those bloody English football commentators and media pundits do my nut in. :D

I find it weirdly amusing to listen to them. I like Shearer and Jenas. They are biased and don’t like to to say how they feel lol
 
If wanting our country to have pride in itself again and be proud of the global contributions we've made over the course of history (and continue to make) instead of being a whiney, self-loathing lefty sheep that's been brainwashed into believing all ill's in the world are our fault means I'll be labelled any or all of those things... bring on the labels!

I'm proud of my country and what we have achieved etc. However, I'm realistic enough to accept we've taken advantage of a lot of the countries & peoples we 'visited', to achieve that. But that was in a different era, and we are making amends for that.
 
Voted out, no brainer for me. EU does not work and has hindered a whole generation of young people, which is so sad. EU can only work when it is a full blown united states of europe. In simple terms this means a full normalisation of living standards across EU, guess who the winners and losers will be... Also it is so totally un-democratic it must feel like what the peoples of USSR have felt, and we know where that ended up.
Its a total train crash, the quicker we get out the better,
 
I don't understand this. Many Europeans agree with Brexit (eg Greeks, Portuguese, Italians). Just not French and Germans. But journalists and civil servants seem to be largely remainers, hence the skewed rhetoric

Exactly.

They only see the positive effects as the competition for jobs and resources does not effect them.

If policy decisions were made deciding the cost of journalism and the civil service needed reducing through mass immigration then every news article, TV news bulletin would be and endless slew of anti EU rhetoric.
 
I'm proud of my country and what we have achieved etc. However, I'm realistic enough to accept we've taken advantage of a lot of the countries & peoples we 'visited', to achieve that. But that was in a different era, and we are making amends for that.

I never claimed we didn't take advantage, to do so would be incredibly disingenuous. My complaint is that the bad points of our history are given far greater weight than the good points.

There are many countries and peoples who have conquered others during human history yet we, The British (and other white Europeans - I'm thinking America and South Africa) are not allowed to forget our colonialist past.

Just as we are not allowed to forget our part in the slave trade. Whilst the critics demanding reparations for our part in it conveniently forget we played a huge part in the abolition of slavery, it is still alive and well in the middle east and Africa and it's a practice that has gone on through out history, affecting nearly every country at some point in it's past.

Even some of our greatest minds are now being criticised (the names that spring to mind right now are Rudyard Kipling - racist, Einstein - racist, Shakespeare - racist).

Where do we draw the line? Do we continue to delve into the darkest corners of our history to find little nuggets of dirt that none of us would be proud of today? Dirt that is ultimately used to negate past achievements by painting the achievers as some kind of sub-human monster that despised another race for example?

It is possible to teach both the good and the bad, we just appear to be choosing to focus on the bad. As a consequence, pride in this country is in my opinion at an all time low because all the youngsters hear about is how bad we've been. How we were the bully of the world.
 

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