where do I stand....

[The Ranger]

here goes the cupboard where my DB is is a disgrace to be honest it's not going to kill anyone but i can no longer put up with it! (not done by me BTW)
So it's coming out and I'll re do it as I see fit
No offence to anyone that does domestic installs but it's just not me I don't do them, but i'm begrudged paying someone a job I can quite happily do and is within my comfort zone. I'm fully qualified 2391 passed etc
but here's the hang up as I show little interest in domestic's this means i also show little interest in part P so I'm not part P registered I have no interest in being part P registered.

where do i stand?

kind regards

 

[Silly Sausage]

That maybe so, but the councils will charging 'you' for the pleasure of notifying the work with them!

 

[Rockingit]

Cheers for that Tel, some interesting reading that I'd never done!! Of particular interest is this, which I never knew either:

Inspection and testing of non-notifiable work
1.30
Non-notifiable electrical installation work must also be carried out in accordance with the requirements of BS 7671:2001 or an equivalent standard. However, it is not necessary for the work to be checked by a building control body or alternatively carried out by an installer registered with a Part P competent person self-certification scheme.

1.31
Local authorities, however, can take enforcement action if non-notifiable work – for example electrical work which is part of a wider project – is found to be unsafe and non-compliant.

1.32
Those qualified to complete BS 7671 installation certificates who carry out non- notifiable work should issue the appropriate electrical installation certificate for all but the simplest of like-for-like replacements. DIYers may wish to employ a qualified third party to carry out inspection and testing of non-notifiable work to make sure it is safe. The qualified person need not necessarily be registered with a Part P competent person scheme self-certification scheme but, as required by BS 7671, must be qualified in respect of the inspection and testing of an installation.

 

[Mark_Burgess]

download the document from planning portal. section 1.26 says that the LABC can inspect ( or get 3rd party inspection) at their expense

Just been looking into that, I think that is only if you have notified up front and payed up.

 

[JulianC]

There are three things you need to do:

1. Do the work
2. Don't tell anyone
3. Don't worry about it

 

[Dan the spark]

Tricky one

 

[Rockingit]

Gents, may I just remind that this is a public forum and the current comments hardly do much to reinforce the importance of conformity with Part P, as per the thousands of other threads on here!!

 

[ackbarthestar]

It troubles me that you lot can say 'up yours ! - i'll just do it and not tell anybody' - then why not? If you are competent, work with electrics every day, understand the dangers and risks involved.

 

[johnboy6083]

Gents, may I just remind that this is a public forum and the current comments hardly do much to reinforce the importance of conformity with Part P, as per the thousands of other threads on here!!

All part P has done really, is ensure that BS7671 enters law, as it becomes a statuory document under part P. Therefore if i was to rewire my house, i have abided by Part P as i am an experienced electrician, with the knowledge, experience and test equipment to do a good job, and inspect test and certify it.
Thebit i dont agree with, is the paying for somebody else to inspect my work, when im more than capable of doing it myself, in in any event, they probably wouldnt send anybody anyway.

PS, if my house were to burn down, then my insurance wuld still cover me, as i could prove that my installation was safe, with my elecirtcal installation cerificates, and test results.

A DIYer could not prove this.

 

[Rockingit]

I'm not for one moment suggesting that none of us isn't competent to work in our own properties, irrespective of our part p registration status, just simply that a thread like this which reads very much like 'one rule for one, another for others' sends a confusing message out to the general public.

 

[Rockingit]

PS, if my house were to burn down, then my insurance wuld still cover me, as i could prove that my installation was safe, with my elecirtcal installation cerificates, and test results.

A DIYer could not prove this.

I guess that depends on you having fire retardant paper that you print your certs on!!

 

[Golden_Boy]

There are three things you need to do:

1. Do the work
2. Don't tell anyone
3. Don't worry about it

Absolutly correct...........

 

[Golden_Boy]

All part P has done really, is ensure that BS7671 enters law, as it becomes a statuory document under part P. Therefore if i was to rewire my house, i have abided by Part P as i am an experienced electrician, with the knowledge, experience and test equipment to do a good job, and inspect test and certify it.
Thebit i dont agree with, is the paying for somebody else to inspect my work, when im more than capable of doing it myself, in in any event, they probably wouldnt send anybody anyway.

PS, if my house were to burn down, then my insurance wuld still cover me, as i could prove that my installation was safe, with my elecirtcal installation cerificates, and test results.

A DIYer could not prove this.

I am almost sure that an installation can also comply with any other EEC countries standards. So I may do mine to comply with the Portuguese standards.:lol:

 

[ackbarthestar]

Just to add confusion to chaos ..... An electrician of 40 years electrocuted a choir boy by wiring up some church choir stall lamps wrongly.

I somehow couldn't say that he was incompetent as an electrician but his work was on that occasion.

So, perhaps, you are only as good as your last job,which means you need to stay up to date and on the ball with your work and forget about what other people do !
One way of maintaining a high standard is by continual assessment which is what one would hope was taking place by being part of an authorizing body.

 

[Geordie Spark]

The only reason that these ridiculous bits of legislation takes root is because we allow it to happen.

The Italians have no such problems - if they don't like or agree with something they simply ignore it.

 

[D80]

Part P is a nonsense, here in Northern Ireland it doesn't even exist. Pretty sure Scotland is the same. Governments need to get the finger out and sort it all out, slender chance of that though.

Do the job right and tell no one, who is ever going to know better? It's not justifying being a cowboy, a cowboy is what you may get if you had to get a Part P spark in. Why throw your hard earned cash to the LABC?