Where to train and what do I need?????

[John79]

Hello,

Please help I am looking to re-train to become a electian but do not no where to get my training and what traning I need to do. I understand that I need C&G 2330 lv2 and lv3 to start and then C&G 2356 NVQ lv3. OLCI offer this @ £5858.85 but when questioning them about signing of your own work thay started getting confused and wasnt sure at what point I could do this. The way I undersatnd it you need to do your EAL lv2 part P to sign your own work off? (this is not part of the course thay offer).Thay also told me that your C&G 2330 meant you didnt need to do your 17th edition IEE,C&G 2392 and C&G 2377 as this was all part of the 2330 and over rid these? It appears for the money you get a few days in the center and the rest sat at home reading and dont even end up with all you need to install and sign of your own work.

I have also been looking at Able Skills in Dartford. There Training for JIB Gold card course @ £8595 where it appears that you do all your training at there facility. This course includes your C&G 2330 lv2 and lv3 with C&G 2382-2377-2393-2392-2391-AM2 and C&G 2357. Now that is alot more than OLCI claim you need but at a bigger price aswell. I am happy to pay more money for the RIGHT course but is this it?

I am also intrested to no at what point can I start doing and signing of my own work as I need to pay for whatever course I am doing. Am I correct in saying that when I have done my C&G 2330 lv2 and C&G 2393?

As I said please help either if you have used either of the training centers or no of any better ones in Essex or could shed some light on what a fully quilified electrian is and what I need to start working with or for someone?

Many thanks

John

 

[Des 56]

You will get plenty of advise and no doubt abuse for your questions
I will give you none of either,other than tell you what the course will not provide

Without this provision,employment as an electrician will be extra diifficult when competing with armies of electricians who are without work and also possess that item


That item is practical on site experience
If you search this forum,your questions are answered on many threads

 

[John79]

Thank you for your concern but I do not plan to be employed by anyone but myself and I am lucky that I have family who own a property managment company (mainly industrial) and have lots of freinds in the building trade aswell. I also live in the south east so benifit from a densly populated area. I also plan to do solar pv wich will broaden my working ability.

If you have any helpful advise I would be grateful.

Many thanks

 

[rmc86uk]

You may want to concentrate your spelling in your posts as you want to become an electrician not an electian!

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[John79]

This is also very helpful?

Thank you

 

[telectrix]

you would be far better doing the 2330 at a local college. evening course, far, far less money to shell out, better training with some practical work included. you can perhaps help out a local sparks part time for hands-on experience. and you will have to do the 17th on top. as for part pee, there is no such thing as a " part p qualification" . you have to join napit or elecsa to notify your own work. i would do 2330 2 & 3, then see if the rules regarding the part p nonsense have changed by that time.

i forgot the other scam provider, niceic.!

 

[John79]

you would be far better doing the 2330 at a local college. evening course, far, far less money to shell out, better training with some practical work included. you can perhaps help out a local sparks part time for hands-on experience. and you will have to do the 17th on top. as for part pee, there is no such thing as a " part p qualification" . you have to join napit or elecsa to notify your own work. i would do 2330 2 & 3, then see if the rules regarding the part p nonsense have changed by that time.

i forgot the other scam provider, niceic.!

The 2 issues with this is

1. I need a GSCE C or above in maths to enrole

2. It takes 2 years

The money is not the problem aslong as I achieve the goal. I really just need to no if either of these training courses are any good and at what point can I start working and signing of my own work?

 

[RWJ]

I've glad you have got the money

£5859 !!

£8595!!!!

Blimey you should train to be come a brief, chucking that sort of money at it!!! They earn £150 per hour which is 10 - 15 times more than YOU'LL EVER get in this game.

NO POT AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW I'm Afraid!

 

[John79]

I've glad you have got the money

£5859 !!

£8595!!!!

Blimey you should train to be come a brief, chucking that sort of money at it!!! They earn £150 per hour which is 10 - 15 times more than YOU'LL EVER get in this game.

NO POT AT THE END OF THE RAINBOW I'm Afraid!

I posted on this forum to get advice in to re-training into becoming a electrian. To find out what I need regards C&G and whereto get the best training at the best price?

How I plan to pay for, where I will get work from is my buisness and no one elses.

Please only post if you have helpful information regards OCLI or Able Skills or at what point and what you need to complete and sign of your own work.

I didnt post here to get seems like personal attacks!!!

Thank you

 

[RWJ]

Please only post if you have helpful information regards OCLI or Able Skills or at what point and what you need to complete and sign of your own work.

I didnt post here to get seems like personal attacks!!!

Thank you

Sorry

DIDN'T REALISE YOU WERE A MOD!!!


And I thought that offering an opinion about you paying 2 - 3 times the amount colleges charge WAS A VALID POST!

I'm also entitled to my opinion.... WHICH I'll continue to express!!! I suggest you take it up with a mod or admin if you don't like it!

 

[John79]

Sorry

DIDN'T REALISE YOU WERE A MOD!!!


And I thought that offering an opinion about you paying 2 - 3 times the amount colleges charge WAS A VALID POST!

I'm also entitled to my opinion.... WHICH I'll continue to express!!! I suggest you take it up with a mod or admin if you don't like it!

Thats not a opinion that you offered? it was telectrix and I do not wish to train for years at the college. If there was a faster learning available it would be the best choice I agree.

 

[telectrix]

you don't need a maths gcse for college. you can take an aptitude test ( basic english and simple maths etc. ) to enable you to enrol. the fast track courses are better suited to somebody with practical experience who needs the paper qualifications. you haven't said how old you are, but if you are under 25, 2 years is nothing.

 

[Lee89]

I enrolled at Preston college last September, without a Maths GCSE.

I am currently studying C&G 2330 level 2. C&G haven't made there minds up yet if they are going to continue our course onto level 3.

So be careful if choosing the college route, as nothing seems clear at the moment.

 

[RWJ]

You are always better of going to college...... but

I respect you for doing the research and NOT choosing the 5day route that some get sold as the "easy way

I do know that our forum Sponsor TRADESKILLS4U offer the 2330 in less than three months. £6500 all in and might offer some discount to forum members (don't quote me on that!)

 

[John79]

you don't need a maths gcse for college. you can take an aptitude test ( basic english and simple maths etc. ) to enable you to enrol. the fast track courses are better suited to somebody with practical experience who needs the paper qualifications. you haven't said how old you are, but if you are under 25, 2 years is nothing.

Thank you for being the only person who offers sensiable advice. I am 32 with a wife and 3 children and I can not wait 2 years. Able skills offer C&G 2330 lv2 being the first part of there course in 8 weeks and advise you to take employment after this point to gain experinace before achieving the next quilifications.

I would like to no if anyone in the last year has gained C&G with any training group in the south east and what there experiance's where.