Which route would you take here for trunking at CU?

[Iain Kay]

I've been looking at a route to run mini trunking (16x25) from CU to a cupboard and from there on to another room.

Got most of the route planned in terms of getting from the room to the cupboard and from the cupboard to hall ceiling.

Now I'm looking at options to get from the ceiling down to the CU.

Is there any issue with running trunking down the pink route shown below?

Or would the green be a better option to go with, albeit less tidy looking as it would have to go over the doorframe.

 

[Iain Kay]

So you are running a business from home....

Can't imagine the owner is going to be very happy about all this. Hope you have their agreement in writing PLUS the fact that you are doing the work..........

Not met many landlords like you claim to have.

I am most definitely not running a business from home as I have no clients and no income from this.

All I've done is run high speed networking to rooms and hook it up to master servers for internet and media purposes, plus run some PCs of my own for experimentation.

Definitely no business here...

 

[Pete999]

Absolutely not!

All power cabling on the walls is just velcro sticky tie things which will come off no bother.

The network cabling is easy to just snip off the cable ties and down it comes.

The cabinet is not attached to the wall, just rests on a convenient shelf.

Tumble dryer is a condenser so doesn't have any holes knocked out to patch.

The virgin media cabling which is supporting the network cabling wasn't my doing, so will stay, but all of that grey cable and the BT extension will be ripped out on me moving.

Done it in pretty much every prior rental and it's always either been left perfectly or the LA has said to just leave it for the next tenants.

Given how 'raw' this looks, there's no way it will be left in place.


If you mean for the duration I'm in the property though then yes. I don't mind the look of it at all and no complaints from my partner.

It's a little tidier coming down the wall on the straights now though.


Edit: I did try some white cable tidies that velcro'd around it, but it actually looks worse. Given it has to be temporary, I'm avoiding using trunking for it so it will have to do.

This a kin wind up, isn't it' got to be.

 

[Corbs]

whats the computers going to be used for, bit ott for media usage

where are the servers all i see is a set if switches

 

[Iain Kay]

Had an inspection recently and no complaints raised over the most blatantly temporarily installed cabling.

A bit over the top, absolutely, but it’s been a fun project and the end result is a rock solid reliable network that I can configure centrally to achieve whatever I need throughout rooms.

Obviously were it a client install it would be trunking or chased into the walls but I’m not doing that here.

Working in IT I’m regularly seeing cabling like this and it doesn’t look that out of place in my house lol

 

[Iain Kay]

whats the computers going to be used for, bit ott for media usage

where are the servers all i see is a set if switches

Right now the cupboard is just the tumble dryer and the comms cabinet is in.

Need to add a shelf before I can put any gear in as it would way too hot directly on top.

It’s not the most ideal solution, but works for the space I have.

Servers run VMware ESX enabling me to run any number of VMs on the top.

Got a few GPUs for GPU passthrough which enables some serious processing power at the expense of actual power from the wall

 

[Corbs]

so mining

bet you have a nice power bill

 

[Iain Kay]

so mining

bet you have a nice power bill

Have you looked at profitability of crypto currency mining?

There’s no competing with the cheap power abroad and it’s taken over by ASIC machines, good luck getting anything with a GPU. And good luck cooking a decent set up.

Did a bit of that back years ago when you could still do it on GPU, sold too early and kick myself but I know that’s not a reality to do any more.

 

[Corbs]

so come on spill the beans if its not mining

video rendering using the gpu or folding ?

 

[Iain Kay]

This a kin wind up, isn't it' got to be.

I know it looks terribly unfinished but it’s the easiest way for me to get high speed networking throughout all rooms that I can remove effortlessly upon exiting the property.

It’s basically one step up from just leaving the cables on the floor.

Done much nicer installs in the past but I just don’t see the point when I’m gonna have to rip it out and make it all good in 2-3 years tops.

 

[Iain Kay]

so come on spill the beans if its not mining

video rendering using the gpu or folding ?

Mostly attempting to brute force password hashes.

White hat only, just interested in security.


Might look to do some video encoding in the future but I’d mostly use my custom build desktop running OS X for that, still if the 2x RX 580s fire up at full power then the machine is pulling nearly 1kW at the wall so it’s no light weight machine.

 

[Toneyz]

This a kin wind up, isn't it' got to be.

Porno vids or fake DVD's

 

[Toneyz]

You watch I'll turn on BBC News Channel tomorrow to see him being arrested for hacking into a government computer network.

 

[ipf]

What’s the purpose of the adaptable box rather than running the trunking straight down to the CU?

Thinking cap required, there!

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

You watch I'll turn on BBC News Channel tomorrow to see him being arrested for hacking into a government computer network.

The spooks are monitoring the good systems night and day and the really saucy stuff is on networks with no external link so not hackable unless at the machine which often is a terminal comprising screen, keyboard and mouse the actual computer is a virtual job on the server.
Even the white hats fear the long arm of us justice.. forget uk jails in america hacking gets you decades not years!! So be careful what you crack as if its on a us server the yanks will be coming

 

[DPG]

I'm surprised the landlord is OK with you adding the extra circuit, cables, sockets etc. to be honest. I am a landlord (wait for a certain person to reply now ) and I wouldn't entertain it - it would be no use for anyone else who rented the property.

 

[Iain Kay]

Porno vids or fake DVD's

Lol, don't think you need much power to run a DVD burner or ten

The spooks are monitoring the good systems night and day and the really saucy stuff is on networks with no external link so not hackable unless at the machine which often is a terminal comprising screen, keyboard and mouse the actual computer is a virtual job on the server.
Even the white hats fear the long arm of us justice.. forget uk jails in america hacking gets you decades not years!! So be careful what you crack as if its on a us server the yanks will be coming

Not looking to crack anything that would ever cause me legal issue.

Not stupid enough to have posted such information in the public domain with my name and pic on the post if it could ever cause me issue either

I'm surprised the landlord is OK with you adding the extra circuit, cables, sockets etc. to be honest. I am a landlord (wait for a certain person to reply now ) and I wouldn't entertain it - it would be no use for anyone else who rented the property.

This is why, almost certainly, it will have to be removed. It's only particularly useful for me. Also why I'm not looking to do a permanent install.

If there had been at least a separate ring circuit for the kitchen, I would not be looking to push this, so landlord could either install additional circuits that would support any tenant (at LLs cost) or allow current tenant to safely modify the installation to suit their needs (at tenants cost).

Either way, I have to request this so that I'm not in breach of the tenancy agreement with regards to not overloading the electrics system installed.

It's then either a yes, you can go ahead with this but at your cost both now and upon removal, or okay we'll look to move.

Given that I've agreed to a 3-year lease, it's not like we're going to be looking to move any time soon so in that regard it seems worthwhile to me to have it done, and I can't imagine it makes that much difference for the landlord.

Offered to pay increased deposit on the basis that if it's not made good upon exit they can deduct this, which is really the only negative I can think of considering its LLs electricians coming in so they'd be the ones doing any works anyway and he obviously entrusts them to do this.

 

[DPG]

Yep, fair points.

 

[Pete999]

You watch I'll turn on BBC News Channel tomorrow to see him being arrested for hacking into a government computer network.

Yes they will be monitoring you well and truly now mate, wait for the knock on the door early hours, or a mysterious phone call when you least expect it, I know.

 

[Iain Kay]

Yes they will be monitoring you well and truly now mate, wait for the knock on the door early hours, or a mysterious phone call when you least expect it, I know.

And here I thought the clicks on my phone were just down to the quality of the BT wiring

 

[Pete999]

And here I thought the clicks on my phone were just down to the quality of the BT wiring

No Mate that's Big Brother, not the TV show either

 

[Octopus]

If there had been at least a separate ring circuit for the kitchen, I would not be looking to push this, so landlord could either install additional circuits that would support any tenant (at LLs cost) or allow current tenant to safely modify the installation to suit their needs (at tenants cost).

Either way, I have to request this so that I'm not in breach of the tenancy agreement with regards to not overloading the electrics system installed.

As I previously contributed there is absolutely no requirement for existing installations to be changed ............ and if I were your landlord, I would not be letting a tenant under take such works.

Sparks have qualifications and PL insurance .................

 

[telectrix]

4 pages on the routing of a couple of feet of mini trunking. must be a record.

 

[Pete999]

4 pages on the routing of a couple of feet of mini trunking. must be a record.

By a non Electrician

 

[Iain Kay]

As I previously contributed there is absolutely no requirement for existing installations to be changed ............ and if I were your landlord, I would not be letting a tenant under take such works.

Sparks have qualifications and PL insurance .................

It's the landlords electricians that came out to investigate my breaker flipping and their opinion was that this would be a solution to the problem.

I discussed my studying for my level 2 with them and advised I had all materials and would be keen to get my hands as dirty as they'll let me.

How is any of this in any way an issue if the LL and electricians are happy?

I'm genuinely interested as I will be looking to find work and I thought that doing work alongside a qualified spark was a fine way to do it?

Right now, I'm putting together the design but this will be sent via them and they're in charge in terms of what happens from there.

I just want to be as hands on as I can with this, but make no mistake the qualified sparks are in charge.

 

[Toneyz]

Yes they will be monitoring you well and truly now mate, wait for the knock on the door early hours, or a mysterious phone call when you least expect it, I know.

If not with that smart meter spinning round at 100mph sending info back there sure to call the rozzers thinking he has got a pot farm on the go.