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Why in the UK are we so fixated with ring circuits. I know decades ago it was decided to use the ring system as it was deemed to be cheaper but surely that can't be the case now.
 
We like to struggle with getting two lots of solid core cable to lay flat in a metal backbox....It's the British way, this desire to make things as awkward as possible. Some even go one further, and install shallow 25mm boxes.
Why do you think so many electricians don't like Wagos? You can hear many of them now...."It just pushes in? Safely and securely? With no need for a screwdriver? Preposterous!! RELEASE THE HOUNDS!"
 
We like to struggle with getting two lots of solid core cable to lay flat in a metal backbox....It's the British way, this desire to make things as awkward as possible. Some even go one further, and install shallow 25mm boxes.
Why do you think so many electricians don't like Wagos? You can hear many of them now...."It just pushes in? Safely and securely? With no need for a screwdriver? Preposterous!! RELEASE THE HOUNDS!"

well.................its only one socket on a radial that doesn't have '2 lots of solid core cable going into it' though when you think about it surely lol
 
Come on guys its the ring-main that stops DIY'ers been qualified if we went to radials it would bring on the 3day rule of thumb wonder course to be an Electrical Domestic Technician :icon13:
 
can do all required testing without leaving consumer unit and going looking for last point.
20amps for a 2.5radial is sometimes not enough (4800watts) = kettle + toaster + washing machine in the kitechen at same time and the thing will trip.

quite a useful invention :)
 
There are pros and coins but when the 18th comes out it will allow for the ring but advise new to be radial why ? To line us up with Europe but it will be like the official voltage is 230v but we all know its 240+
 
As an niceic inspector said to me a few years ago "most sparks are wiring in 4mm twin radials",not really something that i was planning on changing over too.
 
We like to struggle with getting two lots of solid core cable to lay flat in a metal backbox....It's the British way, this desire to make things as awkward as possible. Some even go one further, and install shallow 25mm boxes.
Why do you think so many electricians don't like Wagos? You can hear many of them now...."It just pushes in? Safely and securely? With no need for a screwdriver? Preposterous!! RELEASE THE HOUNDS!"
hahaha - yes, much better to faff around with traditional JB - dressing conductors to different lengths and fiddling with screw terminals - while balanced on a joist in a loft - RELEASE THE HOUNDS indeed ! Lol
 

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