why not make all circuits radial?

[44ALLAN]

Nice, that means i can install a 40+ way CU in my house, and thats before i connect lighting etc, its just for the 40 sockets.

Confused..............all I said was touche?

 

[Engineer54]

where did you get that bollox from ?

a 32a radial does the same job as a 32a ring but with 1 less cable in the CU.

this is one of those topics that always brings out a load of ill thought out "traditional" bullsh*t.

;-)

Oldtimer is basically correct, if all socket circuits were of the radial design, UK CU's would be need to have more way's on each side of the dual RCD's and more expensive RCBO's on a straight CU.

If the ring circuit is dropped in favour of radial circuits then you can bet your soul, that they will introduce a socket outlet plug system designed for use with radial circuits like the German/French systems, then you can kiss your 4mm radials goodbye!!

Traditional bull**** as you put it, is well based on tried and tested circuit design, nothing wrong with your beloved belief in radial circuits, but by the same token there is absolutley nothing wrong with a ring circuit either. Generally find it's mainly the electrical trainee's brigade that don't like rings, because they haven't a clue how to test or fault find them.

 

[Geordie Spark]

Confused..............all I said was touche?

Aye ... well - just watch who's touche yer touchin' bonny lad !!!:angry_smile:

 

[Mr Hehound]

Am I missing something here? Its horses for courses surely. Use whatevers most appropriate for the circuit and cable run.

 

[Guest55]

Oldtimer is basically correct, if all socket circuits were of the radial design, UK CU's would be need to have more way's on each side of the dual RCD's and more expensive RCBO's on a straight CU.

If the ring circuit is dropped in favour of radial circuits then you can bet your soul, that they will introduce a socket outlet plug system designed for use with radial circuits like the German/French systems, then you can kiss your 4mm radials goodbye!!

Traditional bull**** as you put it, is well based on tried and tested circuit design, nothing wrong with your beloved belief in radial circuits, but by the same token there is absolutley nothing wrong with a ring circuit either. Generally find it's mainly the electrical trainee's brigade that don't like rings, because they haven't a clue how to test or fault find them.

is there a b side to that tired old record ?
;-)

 

[Guitarist]

Generally find it's mainly the electrical trainee's brigade that don't like rings, because they haven't a clue how to test or fault find them.

I've found a good smattering of "experienced" sparks who haven't a clue either.

 

[Tiny Spark]

Agree there guitarist.
The rfc is like the outer rings of saturn.
Greatly misunderstood!

Most houses I have lived in have had 2 rings normally up and down or front and back and never seen a problem with that method.

As the old saying goes if it aint broke then leave it the hell alone!!

 

[Engineer54]

is there a b side to that tired old record ?
;-)

You hum it Biff and i play it!!

Tired old records have a habit of staying the course for a reason, ....They WORK and work WELL!! lol!!

 

[craigj85]

I always thought it was incase one socket fails the rest are still supplied

 

[Geordie Spark]

You hum it Biff and i play it!!

Tired old records have a habit of staying the course for a reason, ....They WORK and work WELL!! lol!!

All of my records are old.

Trouble is, I can't get the needles for the gramophone to play them with any more.

 

[Guitarist]

I always thought it was incase one socket fails the rest are still supplied

If the socket itself fails, then that won't affect the others in a ring or radial. If you're saying that one leg failing will allow the sockets to still be supplied via the other leg, then that is definitely NOT what we are aiming for.

 

[DPG]

I always thought it was incase one socket fails the rest are still supplied

That's a worrying comment. Was it meant to be tongue-in-cheek? Daz

 

[44ALLAN]

I always thought it was incase one socket fails the rest are still supplied

mmmmm 2.5mm with 32A mcb.............

 

[7029 dave]

As they say on dragons den I'm out.

 

[sparks will fly]

What about for sockets intended for computers, I always put them on a ring, high leakage current so if you lose an earth in the socket it still has a path, if you did it as a radial and lost it on one of the furthest sockets it's gonna find a way out somewhere else