Wiring for new 16 Amp oven

[Octopus]

Well .... the mi says 16a

So a dedicated circuit required ...

 

[Octopus]

Well .... the mi says 16a

So a dedicated circuit required ...

 

[Beeg]

Well .... the mi says 16a

So a dedicated circuit required ...

I agree, as I said before I had no intention of doing it any other way, I just wanted to satisfy my own curiosity about the potential consequences of connecting to a standard 3 pin plug / socket. Thanks for your help

 

[James]

It is not something you can say “it’s only a little over”
The limit is 13A, not 13.2A not 13.05A
13A IS THE MAXIMUM.
End of discussion.

 

[Octopus]

I agree, as I said before I had no intention of doing it any other way, I just wanted to satisfy my own curiosity about the potential consequences of connecting to a standard 3 pin plug / socket. Thanks for your help

Rule of thumb .... if it comes with a 13a plug on it, plug it in, if it doesn’t you need to hard wire it.

 

[Beeg]

It is not something you can say “it’s only a little over”
The limit is 13A, not 13.2A not 13.05A
13A IS THE MAXIMUM.
End of discussion.

I completely agree with you, as I said in my original post I had no intention of connecting to a 3 pin plug. I fully appreciate that the regs and max current ratings are there purely for safety and under no circumstances should they be exceeded.
I was merely asking to satisfy my own curiosity and I apologise for any confusion this has caused.

 

[Charlie_]

Also at 240+ volts the actual current and power will be higher than that stated for sure 230 volts

 

[Beeg]

Could be way off the mark here.... if the existing socket was off a RFC then the MCB would be rated at 32A.
Would it be possible / acceptable for an electrician to remove the existing socket and fit a cooker control unit, providing the cable to the oven is suitably sized, say 6mm?

 

[Taylortwocities]

Yes, you are way off the mark. It is not permitted to connect loads greater than 13A to a ring final.
All connections to ring final circuits must have a fuse of no more than 13A (usually a fused BS1361 plug or an FCU).

In fact, the guidance is that fixed loads of more that 2KW should be on their own dedicated circuit.

 

[Beeg]

Yes, you are way off the mark. It is not permitted to connect loads greater than 13A to a ring final.
All connections to ring final circuits must have a fuse of no more than 13A (usually a fused BS1361 plug or an FCU).

In fact, the guidance is that fixed loads of more that 2KW should be on their own dedicated circuit.

I didn’t think it would be as simple as that somehow so I either need to buy an oven under 2.9kW that has a plug fitted or get a sparky to run a new cable from the CU with a 16Amp MCB?

 

[Wilko]

I didn’t think it would be as simple as that somehow so I either need to buy an oven under 2.9kW that has a plug fitted or get a sparky to run a new cable from the CU with a 16Amp MCB?

Hi - the common approach for providing power to electric cooking appliances is by their own circuit. While the design can vary, its often a 6mm cable with a 32A overload protective device. The actual appliance connection method used is then varied to suit the appliance.
Are you saying you have no cooker circuit?

 

[Zerax]

It is not something you can say “it’s only a little over”
The limit is 13A, not 13.2A not 13.05A
13A IS THE MAXIMUM.
End of discussion.

Shame you weren't on our negotiating team for Brexit !

 

[dmxtothemax]

A 13A fuse will not blow at 16A.
At 25% overload will hold
At 50% over load will still hold, but may blow if held for long periods
At 100% will usually blow.

 

[Pete999]

Could be way off the mark here.... if the existing socket was off a RFC then the MCB would be rated at 32A.
Would it be possible / acceptable for an electrician to remove the existing socket and fit a cooker control unit, providing the cable to the oven is suitably sized, say 6mm?

NO

 

[Beeg]

Hi - the common approach for providing power to electric cooking appliances is by their own circuit. While the design can vary, its often a 6mm cable with a 32A overload protective device. The actual appliance connection method used is then varied to suit the appliance.
Are you saying you have no cooker circuit?

I do have a cooker circuit but as far as know that’s for the electric hob on the other side of the room.
So it could be that the socket isn’t part of the RFC but is actually fed from its own 32A MCB?

If that was the case would it be acceptable /conforming to remove the socket and fit a JB/cooker connection unit with some 6mm T&E to the oven?