Worlds fastest EICR ?

[DPG]

I will await the certs arriving .Then Call the council Get it logged and ask for an immediate inspection as I believe this is very very common . And 10000's of tenants are been put at risk by greedy landlords

The fault is not just with the landlords. This can only happen if dodgy electricians are willing to complete a sham EICR.

 

[LukeD]

Landlords want 'cheap" and a landlord is responsible and knows what a EICR should entail etc . They cannot just excuse it and pretend they had no idea. Some landlords only pay £60 a check etc . it suits them to offer 6 flats and the landlord saves a fortune .The dodgy sparks earns very good money for the day .The tenant is living in a property that could have serious issues ? And what if the guys are not trained at all and just issuing certs ? NO ONE is policing this .Anyone can offer tests and run off with a a lot of money ?

 

[DPG]

Landlords want 'cheap" and a landlord is responsible and knows what a EICR should entail etc . They cannot just excuse it and pretend they had no idea. Some landlords only pay £60 a check etc . it suits them to offer 6 flats and the landlord saves a fortune .The dodgy sparks earns very good money for the day .The tenant is living in a property that could have serious issues ? And what if the guys are not trained at all and just issuing certs ? NO ONE is policing this .Anyone can offer tests and run off with a a lot of money ?

There are also good landlords who, understandably, do not know anything about electrics, and therefore put their trust in the electrician.

 

[Dustydazzler]

Landlords want safe but cheap in my experience. as long as they get their safety cert they are happy.
Likewise if something needs fixing they fix it.
But if they don't know something needs fixing due to carp EICRs then what can they do...

 

[LukeD]

There are also good landlords who, understandably, do not know anything about electrics, and therefore put their trust in the electrician.

True ! But most landlords with multiple units and using management agents will KNOW

 

[Rockingit]

I left a rented place last year after being there for nearly five years, I'd not 'looked at' anything electrical on principle except that I knew the RCD's all worked. In moving out, I decided it was quicker just to swap out an old socket front that had paint on it rather than spend ages trying to clean it up. Took it off.... no cpc!! Found a second hand plate that was passable as 'original', swapped and moved on. I see the new buyers of the place had another spark's van parked outside for about a week.........

 

[littlespark]

I left a rented place last year after being there for nearly five years, I'd not 'looked at' anything electrical on principle except that I knew the RCD's all worked. In moving out, I decided it was quicker just to swap out an old socket front that had paint on it rather than spend ages trying to clean it up. Took it off.... no cpc!! Found a second hand plate that was passable as 'original', swapped and moved on. I see the new buyers of the place had another spark's van parked outside for about a week.........

That’s all fine, until the neighbours tell the new owners the last occupant was a spark.... that’s maybe why you didn’t get the work?

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[Rockingit]

That’s all fine, until the neighbours tell the new owners the last occupant was a spark.... that’s maybe why you didn’t get the work?

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Nah, it's all a bit more complex and political than that! Besides, the old neighbour runs a commercial M&E and subs his electrical work to me!!

 

[Grant1987]

Artisan baker has a wee rant in his latest upload about trying to decipher another niceic installers drive by eicr

Drive by EICRS ? thats the common phrase round my area and we aren’t yet at the stage of requiring an up to date EICR in Wales yet like the landlords in England and Scotland. I can’t wait till it all sets off and I’m then asked to carry out fault finding on a recently tested property. Not many sparks can fault find which is shocking (excuse the pun)

 

[telectrix]

25 minutes is disgusting. i take at least 30 minutes to get from the van to the front door.

 

[littlespark]

25 minutes is disgusting. i take at least 30 minutes to get from the van to the front door.

If you text them before you arrive, they can have the kettle boiled before you get there

 

[telectrix]

If you text them before you arrive, they can have the kettle boiled before you get there

kettle my arse. 4 fingers of JD before i get the tester out.

 

[Zerax]

Landlords want safe but cheap in my experience. as long as they get their safety cert they are happy.

But this is the 'modern way'... as long as you have a certificate, then that's fine... you're covered. It happens in all walks of life, not just with EICRs. This approach can work... but as we've already mentioned, it needs to be policed. The various trade bodies should be doing this... with some of the money from the exorbitant annual fees !!

As soon as they start to call people out, cancel memberships and maybe have the odd prosecution... you've see a dramatic improvement overnight !

 

[Dartlec]

But this is the 'modern way'... as long as you have a certificate, then that's fine... you're covered. It happens in all walks of life, not just with EICRs. This approach can work... but as we've already mentioned, it needs to be policed. The various trade bodies should be doing this... with some of the money from the exorbitant annual fees !!

As soon as they start to call people out, cancel memberships and maybe have the odd prosecution... you've see a dramatic improvement overnight !

But the trade bodies are directly competing for those fees, so have no pressure to cancel memberships unless forced to by some outside body overseeing them - and that would need money to setup, so we end up back with the mess we started at.

One possible way of dealing with the EICRs would be to set up a system where they are all submitted for review by a suitable body who actually looked at them (or even just sampled some).

A large number would likely fail at the first hurdle with a literal 5 minute glance through that could be rejected and sent back to the landlord to require an updated report - and followed up through schemes where applicable.

Landlords would soon learn that getting a £75 report was not worth the effort and it might eventually settle into a sensible system...

Not sure who that body would be - maybe an online forum of professionals? ?

 

[Zerax]

Not sure who that body would be - maybe an online forum of professionals? ?

ok ok ok... I'll do some then... visual check of the EICR only... £10 each one... I can't say fairer than that.