EU Brexit - How will you vote given the latest "news"

[Octopus]

Totally agree with all that.

So do I - its called the EEC!

 

[andyb]

So do I - its called the EEC!

EECs gone Murdoch. :nonod:

 

[Octopus]

EECs gone Murdoch. :nonod:

Needs to come back.........

 

[andyb]

Needs to come back.........

You might be right.

 

[Octopus]

You might be right.

And the weaker countries need to leave the Euro ........

 

[andyb]

And the weaker countries need to leave the Euro ........

Now we disagree.

28 countries, a few strong some weak. The weak help the strong, we all benefit.

 

[Octopus]

Now we disagree.

28 countries, a few strong some weak. The weak help the strong, we all benefit.

Hum - so you are advocating that all 28 countries join the Euro AND have political & fiscal union?

 

[andyb]

Hum - so you are advocating that all 28 countries join the Euro AND have political & fiscal union?

Nope..

 

[Octopus]

Nope..

So how will it work then?

The non Euro countries bailing the Euro countries out?

Germany bailing everybody out?

Germany deciding fiscal policies for the weaker countries?


The UK has political and fiscal union. 4 countries, many regions, payments are given to countries and regions in an inconsistent fashion. Nobody complains. This is only possible because of the UK National Government.

The EU does not have this structure....

 

[andyb]

So how will it work then?

The non Euro countries bailing the Euro countries out?

Germany bailing everybody out?

Germany deciding fiscal policies for the weaker countries?


The UK has political and fiscal union. 4 countries, many regions, payments are given to countries and regions in an inconsistent fashion. Nobody complains. This is only possible because of the UK National Government.

The EU does not have this structure....

I'm trying to do a quote Murdoch, hence my short posts.:sad_smile:

If you're in the EU you help smaller countries, Euro or non Euro.
I'm not talking about bailouts, they're a separate matter.
Germany decides nothing on its own.

 

[Octopus]

I'm trying to do a quote Murdoch, hence my short posts.:sad_smile:

If you're in the EU you help smaller countries, Euro or non Euro.
I'm not talking about bailouts, they're a separate matter.
Germany decides nothing on its own.

Ask the Greeks about that one!

 

[andyb]

Ask the Greeks about that one!

When I've finished my quote I will.

 

[andyb]

Voting has been open for 2 1/2 hours now.

Market's up over a hundred
Pound's up over a cent
Remain price shortened from 1/3 to 1/8
Leave price drifted from 5/2 to 11/2

Don't know if they know anything.

 

[Octopus]

I haven't voted yet.

 

[andyb]

I haven't voted yet.

Nor me Murdoch.

It's too early for any exit poll to be of any value.
I'm guessing the markets are up for an entirely different reason and the bookies are responding to them.

I'm not voting in till 9:30ish tonight.



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[Octopus]

Nor me Murdoch.

It's too early for any exit poll to be of any value.
I'm guessing the markets are up for an entirely different reason and the bookies are responding to them.

I'm not voting in till 9:30ish tonight.



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Apparently they are not doing an exit poll!

 

[andyb]

Apparently they are not doing an exit poll!

There are plenty of private exit polls by financial institutions and the like that will never be made public.
I'm sure ugov are doing one to be published at 10:00 tonight though.

 

[Skelly]

BREAKING NEWS: Holland announce they intend to table a motion in their Parliament to have a referendum to leave the EU if Brexit wins. They intend to do this the very next day. The president of Holland has also stated that Denmark, France and Sweden are looking to follow ... interesting timing. The whole rotten edifice is coming apart, so where is the security in the EU now? Please let everyone know ... we may now finally get a Common Market instead of USE if we leave. There are now countries waiting for us to leave ....Be strong, be European and leave the EU.

 

[Spoon]

Why do they need to wait for the result? Why don't they jut have a referendum?

 

[silverfox1]

BREAKING NEWS: Holland announce they intend to table a motion in their Parliament to have a referendum to leave the EU if Brexit wins. They intend to do this the very next day. The president of Holland has also stated that Denmark, France and Sweden are looking to follow ... interesting timing. The whole rotten edifice is coming apart, so where is the security in the EU now? Please let everyone know ... we may now finally get a Common Market instead of USE if we leave. There are now countries waiting for us to leave ....Be strong, be European and leave the EU.

I have voted leave but even if remain wins we will rid ourselves of the EU when it all falls apart as it will only thing is it will cost us billions of pounds more as they screw us for more money to keep bailing out the sinking ship to keep their dream alive.

 

[andyb]

BREAKING NEWS: Holland announce they intend to table a motion in their Parliament to have a referendum to leave the EU if Brexit wins. They intend to do this the very next day. The president of Holland has also stated that Denmark, France and Sweden are looking to follow ... interesting timing. The whole rotten edifice is coming apart, so where is the security in the EU now? Please let everyone know ... we may now finally get a Common Market instead of USE if we leave. There are now countries waiting for us to leave ....Be strong, be European and leave the EU.

A link would be handy.

 

[Spoon]

I also have voted to leave, but I don't think we will win. Unfortunately there are too many people frightened of change....

 

[silverfox1]

A link would be handy.

https://www.------------/LabourLeaveGroup/timeline

It is also here IT'S FINALLY HERE: Britons Vote Today On Historic European Union Referendum - Breitbart

 

[Midwest]

Don't you lot know it's illegal to campaign on polling day!

 

[Octopus]

Don't you lot know it's illegal to campaign on polling day!

David Cameron is tweeting ...... is that allowed?

 

[Skelly]

Just go's to show who is running scared.
Police called amid claims of EU vote rigging with pens | UK | News | Daily Express

 

[andyb]

https://www.------------/LabourLeaveGroup/timeline

It is also here IT'S FINALLY HERE: Britons Vote Today On Historic European Union Referendum - Breitbart

Come on Silver, that's just a link to a Facebook page. Do you really think that the Dutch government would announce plans for a referendum on Facebook?

This was in the Sun a few months ago. It was as much crap then as it is now.

You really shouldn't believe every bit of nonsense put out by people with an agenda.

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[Octopus]

Its official - UK voting is like a banana republic.

Some friends of mine have 3 children at University - all 3 have a vote at home AND at university. All 3 could easily travel too and fro to exercise both votes.....

 

[andyb]

Voting has been open for 2 1/2 hours now.

Market's up over a hundred
Pound's up over a cent
Remain price shortened from 1/3 to 1/8
Leave price drifted from 5/2 to 11/2

Don't know if they know anything.

Both the FTSE and pound are now falling
Odds for a Brexit are shortening.

Hope this means nothing.

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[Midwest]

David Cameron is tweeting ...... is that allowed?

As long as he's not farting in church.

 

[andyb]

Its official - UK voting is like a banana republic.

Some friends of mine have 3 children at University - all 3 have a vote at home AND at university. All 3 could easily travel too and fro to exercise both votes.....

It's always been like that Murdoch.
They're only allowed to vote once, though I don't suppose no one would know if they did vote twice.

I wouldn't worry about it though, most students will not even be bothered to vote once, let alone twice.

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[Octopus]

It's always been like that Murdoch.
They're only allowed to vote once, though I don't suppose no one would know if they did vote twice.

I wouldn't worry about it though, most students will not even be bothered to vote once, let alone twice.

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I'm not bothered by it TBH - I'm more intrigued that with all the IT in place that this is possible - I suppose its like at the "unusual" postal voting at the last election..

 

[Octopus]

Both the FTSE and pound are now falling
Odds for a Brexit are shortening.

Hope this means nothing.

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Hum..... its the bankers "fixing" the market so they can make some money.

If the predictions of how close its going to be are true, this referendum will not be the end of this saga IMHO.

 

[silverfox1]

Come on Silver, that's just a link to a Facebook page. Do you really think that the Dutch government would announce plans for a referendum on Facebook?

This was in the Sun a few months ago. It was as much crap then as it is now.

You really shouldn't believe every bit of nonsense put out by people with an agenda.

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Andy you asked for a link I posted a link I was not the op just thought I would link to where it has come from the Labour leave group.

 

[andyb]

I'm not bothered by it TBH - I'm more intrigued that with all the IT in place that this is possible - I suppose its like at the "unusual" postal voting at the last election..

Me too.
A bigger worry is the multiple registrations at the same address.
It shouldn't be too difficult to stop that.
Same with benefits. (Another thread though)


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[Octopus]

Me too.
A bigger worry is the multiple registrations at the same address.
It shouldn't be too difficult to stop that.
Same with benefits. (Another thread though)


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100% agree with all that.

Problem with Civil Servants is that they sit at their desks and try and make decisions based on the data they see. They need to get out and about and actually investigate.

At the same time HMRC needs to take into account payments from absent parents when calculating tax credits, because currently they don't.....

 

[Midwest]

Hum..... its the bankers "fixing" the market so they can make some money.

If the predictions of how close its going to be are true, this referendum will not be the end of this saga IMHO.

Your sounding like Mrs Sturgeon or phalic salmon

 

[andyb]

Just go's to show who is running scared.
Police called amid claims of EU vote rigging with pens | UK | News | Daily Express

Just goes to show who's paranoid.

 

[Octopus]

Your sounding like Mrs Sturgeon or phalic salmon

She makes it sound as if the Scottish vote was 49.99% to 50.01% and not the 45% to 55% it actually was.

Lets see how the EU numbers come out!

 

[Midwest]

Anyways, I was at the Dispatch Box today in HOC, about to make my maiden speech. I briefly mentioned your name Murdoch, and the opposition boxes told me to shove off (they were a bunch of 6 year olds). Off to happy hour now, in the rather expensive bar in me hotel, think I can afford a tonic water. It will all be over tomorrow morning. We can bump our gums on something else then.

 

[andyb]

Andy you asked for a link I posted a link I was not the op just thought I would link to where it has come from the Labour leave group.

Sorry Silver, I assumed you made the original post.
Still waiting for a link from Skelly.

I assume the rest of you Brexeters are not basing your views on random Facebook posts.

 

[telectrix]

i didn't base my vote on faceache. just facts. better off out of it before it drags us down even further.

 

[Midwest]

Gourld, can't you lot lay off now. Nought you say will change things, less you emigrate to Aus' or Frenchy France. Wake up in the morning and it will all be just a bad dream

 

[andyb]

Gourld, can't you lot lay off now. Nought you say will change things, less you emigrate to Aus' or Frenchy France. Wake up in the morning and it will all be just a bad dream

But I've not voted yet MW,
I might still be swayed.

 

[telectrix]

But I've not voted yet MW,
I might still be swayed.

if you vote for IN. i won't read anymore of your posts. will that sway you? :19:

 

[Midwest]

But I've not voted yet MW,
I might still be swayed.

Go down the pub instead, might give the others some hope -

 

[andyb]

Go down the pub instead, might give the others some hope -

That's always the problem with these votey things MW.

My polling station is in my village club where I go every Thursday for a drink with my mates (all brexiters by the way)
I generally vote about 2 minuets to 10, so this time with my vote actually counting for once (safe Tory seat) it's a little bit dangerous.

 

[7029 dave]

Took me pen with me just in case some bugger rubs me X out.

 

[andyb]

There might be something in this pen business.

 

[solarsavings]

WhSmiths? We used to get them from the barbers in my day.