**Show Us Your Installs!!!**

[ipf]

Good question is a bit sparse I know what you mean.... in the tumble unit at the end (far left of lite tile) there are 2 x doubles in there and 1 x double under the island

No telly? Kettles, toaster, mixer, etc banned.......just spoil the great look.lol.

 

[sythai]

No telly? Kettles, toaster, mixer, etc banned.......just spoil the great look.lol.

Really practically planned, maybe not :icon10:

 

[ipf]

Like to see Eric and Ernie in there, eh?

 

[Kev2632]

Is this the finished job Kev?
Would have liked to have seen a picture with the cover on and including the MET etc.

Yea that was it finished lad,:/ is it bad ?

 

[Knobhead]

No telly? Kettles, toaster, mixer, etc banned.......just spoil the great look.lol.

The householder can't cook and lives on take a ways. The family live in the garage so as not to clutter the house up.

 

[sythai]

The householder can't cook and lives on take a ways. The family live in the garage so as not to clutter the house up.

Funny thing is their utility room is about twice the size of my kitchen..... additional fridge, freezer microwave etc all in there. Think I even spotted a few of those double plug socket thingys above the worktop :uhoh2:

 

[sedgy34]

View attachment 16730 Today's consumer unit i did, thoughts and opinions would be nice

You want thoughts on that?

 

[Kev2632]

You want thoughts on that?

yes please??

 

[sedgy34]

yes please??

The ip integrity of the db comes into question after you have taken out more than needed underneath for cable entry

 

[Kev2632]

The ip integrity of the db comes into question after you have taken out more than needed underneath for cable entry

Yea i understand that now, but i was just wondering what you thought on neatness of the board in terms of what i had to work with?

 

[Harwoodandy]

Yea that was it finished lad,:/ is it bad ?

Some (hopefully) constructive critisicsm other than what has already been said....

Why finish your mini trunk 10mm short of the enclosure? - it looks shoddy and technically youre leaving single insulated conductors lacking mechanical protection.
Is that blue tape around the cables where they exit the trunking and enter the CU? If yes why?
Neutrals/cpc's not aligned sequentially on the bus bars
Why only 1 bonding conductor - where is the other(s) connected - if applicable?
Trim down those neutral conductors! - i know they're factory but it looks bad - no need for bare exposed conductor
Invest in some heat shrink and a heat gun
Some of those cables look pretty stretched - nothing wrong with a well constructed joint within an enclosure - you could "hide" it behind the breakers

And as previously posted the IP integrity is dreadful and clean all that sh!t out of the unit!!

sorry if it sounds a bit harsh - i've seen a lot, lot worse tbh....

Andy

 

[Engineer54]

Good question is a bit sparse I know what you mean.... in the tumble unit at the end (far left of lite tile) there are 2 x doubles in there and 1 x double under the island

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Yet another so-called modern kitchen that DOESN'T work!! But looks great!! lol!!

It's even a chore to put the kettle on to make a cup of coffee...

 

[Silly Sausage]

Yet another so-called modern kitchen that DOESN'T work!! But looks great!! lol!!

It's even a chore to put the kettle on to make a cup of coffee...

That's what the Maid is for!


You wouldn't believe we're heading into triple dip recession when you see things like this.

 

[Engineer54]

That's what the Maid is for!


You wouldn't believe we're heading into triple dip recession when you see things like this.

Probably a Bankers house then!!

They are the only buggers profiting from the world recession that they brought about in the first place!!
Still find it Amazing that not a single banks CEO or whatever, has been prosecuted for Fraud!! Nope, instead they all stepped down from those positions and given multi million pound pay-offs, again with money they didn't legally have, to give them!! lol!!

 

[Silly Sausage]

Humph!
Their arrogance and how they get away with it, is just mind boggling.
It's why I commented elsewhere about cash jobs being OK, what these guys get away with.
I'm quite happy to be as corrupt as my esteemed leaders of Govt. & financial institutions. :-------::-------::-------:

 

[Engineer54]

It's been a long time where it paid to be honest!! The final nail in the honesty coffin, was during Empress Maggie's reign!! lol!!

 

[Silly Sausage]

I'm off to dig out my copy of Das Kapital!

 

[jonnyboy1]

Photo by solarsparx • Instagram


I can't upload pictures from my iPhone but if u click the link you will see a very alarming photo. 2 split con's terminated into 3phase head with exposed copper on both cables. I was shocked to find this espically on the supplier end of the install which is usually half decent. I wonder how long it been like that and council very lucky as no accidents to date espically with small kids running around.

Ps council were made aware yesterday (as soon as I saw it) to get dno out

 

[HandySparks]

What's the grey box on the wall below the fuses, bottom left?

 

[pennywise]

Spreader box for the main 3phase supply cable to be split to the fuse carriers on top.

 

[jonnyboy1]

As penny wise says

 

[HandySparks]

Spreader box for the main 3phase supply cable to be split to the fuse carriers on top.

Thanks, that's what I thought. I see that I had misunderstood the OP's wording to mean that the supply side of the cutout was dangerous, but I now see that he means the supply end of the distribution cable from cutout to meter.

 

[TA12ANZ]

wow that bare neutral look's deathly mg_smile:

 

[t01474]

Pics from a generator install I did last year for a well known clothes shop's HQ. Two of the SWA's are glanded into paxolene to prevent earthing issues as the three buildings all had different earthing systems. I don't understand the theory side of it. Just did what I was told. Sizes are (left to right) 120 4-c , 120 4-c , 150 4-c. Other images show time delay changeover switch , generator main switch and spreader box. Glanding into 12 * 12 trunking is no fun and glanding into paxolene is even worse. A case of do all the dead testing then close your eyes for the big switch on! Can't remember the kVA of the genset. Something like 150kVA i think but im only guessing

 

[pennywise]

Sorry this is probably me getting this completely wrong and will happily be corrected, but the first pic of the main switch on the gen, would there be a potential for eddy currents with all those single cores going through the gland plate separately? Or are those black cut lines or sharpie ones for marking out. Nice to see some big stuff.

 

[t01474]

You're right about the eddy current issue. They're cut lines not pen marks. However, the lockrings on the stuffing glands are steel. I mentioned it at the time but was told it's not a problem. I think it is though and would have preferred to have been using nylon / PVC stuffing glands. Again, I was told to just use what I was given and not keep asking questions!

 

[johnboy6083]

You were right to raise the issue. When the Genny is running, those locknuts will heat up, in some cases they can go cherry red! This can cause the sheath on the cable to melt, and expose copper, which will cause a short circuit!
Brass locknuts should of been used, or as you suggested, use plastic Stuffers.
As for isolating the earthing for each building, how will the earth fault protection work for the buildings?

 

[pennywise]

You're right about the eddy current issue. They're cut lines not pen marks. However, the lockrings on the stuffing glands are steel. I mentioned it at the time but was told it's not a problem. I think it is though and would have preferred to have been using nylon / PVC stuffing glands. Again, I was told to just use what I was given and not keep asking questions!

thought they might be cuts and the pattern is right for reducing eddy currents , I use sharpies so much now it looks identical to a Line drawn by one . Personally I like double insulated tri rated singles for big stuff, in trunking with as you say large stuffing glands. You can only do what your told, been there too!. Quick pic and email it to yourself for a timeline and a little note with your concerns bit of evidence gathering .

 

[glasgospark]

ground up lighters on domestic property

 

[t01474]

Johnboy. I've honestly got no idea mate. I'm just a sparks. I assume that as the individual earthing arrangements for the buildings aren't disturbed / isolated they would work in the same way as if the local supply was being used not the genset. I.e down the CPC, through the main earth and down the DNO earth?

Pennywise ive got some other pics somewhere on my phone of a genset install in london. 1MVA though. All the cables were 300mm tri-rate (TQ I think it was called) in parallel or tri-foil. Much better job. Ally cleats, PVC stuffing glands ect. Same firm but different foreman. Gave me the correct stuff for the job. No arguing, no worries, loads of scrap!

 

[dan86]

View attachment 17346


ground up lighters on domestic property

never see them on a domestic property. I actually quite like it

 

[glasgospark]

never see them on a domestic property. I actually quite like it

Thanks mate was a good job aswell , finished product excellent

 

[Resu]

Thanks mate was a good job aswell , finished product excellent

What fittings are these mate? Looks spot on.

 

[glasgospark]

What fittings are these mate? Looks spot on.

customer supplied them £200 each dual housing ,70w halogen pretty expensive but worth it especially when there going to be burried in ground , alot to be said for get what you pay for .
where also pre wired and sealed so water ingress should be less than minimal

 

[glasgospark]

Metal Halide Uplighters | National Lighting

 

[wade88]

Before and after shots of kitchen we recently finished..... check out the 'rather large' LED lite tile, looks pretty funky
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Thats beautiful...i want this kitchen

 

[Engineer54]

Thats beautiful...i want this kitchen

Really?? it may look beautiful, but it wont operate too well as a kitchen with no-where to plug in appliances. Your missus will soon get the Ike with it. It's a designer kitchen that is there purely to look at and not much else!! lol!!

 

[wade88]

I don't care how functional it is..... your right, thats the missus' problem. Come on man.

As long as that fridge keeps my beer cold and the cooker turns on, i'm a happy man.

 

[wade88]

best bit about it, is the over head "orders giving" platform. Where i can stand and watch her cook, whilst barking orders and supervising the steak as she cooks it.

 

[Engineer54]

Again, ...Your only seeing what the designer wants you to see!! lol!! He ain't gonna tell you about how the upstairs is going to stink to high heaven of kitchen smells that are going to raise up that opening!! Bloody disaster of a layout, when you stop and think about it, and got past how it Looks!! lol!!

 

[wade88]

There is a serious lack of extraction over that Aga. That is a good point....Ill be sure to shout through the garden window from my sun lounger to remind the wife to keep the patio doors open when she cooks and to keep a tray handy to waft the smoke out the window.

Phew, almost had to agree with you there and admit is just ISNT practical. close call

 

[Engineer54]

Y

There is a serious lack of extraction over that Aga. That is a good point....Ill be sure to shout through the garden window from my sun lounger to remind the wife to keep the patio doors open when she cooks and to keep a tray handy to waft the smoke out the window.

Phew, almost had to agree with you there and admit is just ISNT practical. close call

You haven't convinced me!! lol!!

 

[wade88]

Haha.

Look, sometimes in life you have to embrace the fact that not everything can serve form as well as function. Sometimes it's just one or the other.

The Ford Mustang GT500 - looks phenomenal, sounds incredible, has all the appeal a man needs...... drives like a bath tub on an ice rink.

Kate Upton - beauty beyond description, air bags that defy reality (more than can be said for the mustang that's for sure) and the grace of a snowflake.... but you wouldn't take her down the pub quiz with the lads in any attempt at coming first and getting your hands on that Jar of £1 coins or the free sunday carvery.

Sometimes you just have to enjoy the look of something instead

 

[Knobhead]

Even when it doesn't work?

 

[t01474]

1MVA genset in East London. 300mm tri-rate in parallel.

 

[Engineer54]

A nice install as a whole, but i wouldn't class those terminations in pic #2 as being up to a professional finish!!! ...A, B- on that one...lol!

 

[wade88]

What would be a more professional finish to those tails then? Sleeve rather than tape?

 

[Engineer54]

What would be a more professional finish to those tails then? Sleeve rather than tape?

Never use PVC tape on terminations of this type, (they will always come adrift after time) always, always heat shrink, that goes for phase colour identification too. I also like to see an infill of amalgamating tape between the sheath end and lug to give a smooth finish when the heat shrink is applied. The N and L1 connections should have been to the opposite side of the bar, gives maximum clearance between conductors. Sheath has been cut back too far for my liking and not uniform.

Mainly it's just aesthetics, but it does make a difference to the finished job!!

 

[Stroppy]

Was feeling quite creative when the cat died, so mounted some LED's in her eyes and fitted a photocell in the top of her head Just need another one now to make a matching pair.

It's what she would have wanted......

 

[Knobhead]

Never mind the tape on the terminations. Plastic cable ties on the tails? Under heavy fault they will break free and whip about. They should be held in trefoil with metal strapping or aluminium cleats.
An electrician’s mate was killed in one company I worked at when a fault caused the transformer tails to repel and throw the floor plates up.