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[shanky887614]

Why what's wrong with it. Looks good

we make install's to allow for alterations and its much better to cut side off tray, file and galve etc then use roofers to bolt together.

this is asuming it's not on show because then its usually requested to use pre manufactered bends.


that is a much more useful skill to learn

 

[Knobhead]

What you've done looks neat. I just cant see any sense in telling anyone to chop holes in tray like that. Collages must be in a parallel universe. One that bears no semblance of reality.

 

[Megavolt]

we make install's to allow for alterations and its much better to cut side off tray, file and galve etc then use roofers to bolt together.this is asuming it's not on show because then its usually requested to use pre manufactered bends.that is a much more useful skill to learn

Yes a agree with you but that is what he was asked to do and that is what he has done. So he's made a good job of what he was asked to do.

 

[Stroppy]

Right, to avoid "I wouldn't have done it like this" complaints I have edited the original post. http://www.electriciansforums.net/e...**show-us-your-installs-**-41.html#post739420

 

[rmc86uk]

Yes we all know that it was part of a college assignment and we are not saying it doesn't look good. Myself and such as Tony said above the argument being why do colleges teach things that wouldn't apply in this universe.

 

[Stroppy]

Yes I agree, some things they teach are very silly, such as stripping back T&E with a knife. I don't think anyone does that in the real world, do they? (apart from 4mm and above)

 

[Mork]

Whats wrong with stripping back T&E with a knife?

 

[ipf]

Yes I agree, some things they teach are very silly, such as stripping back T&E with a knife. I don't think anyone does that in the real world, do they? (apart from 4mm and above)

...Yep

 

[Robotstar5]

I've always used a knife

 

[rmc86uk]

Whats wrong with stripping back T&E with a knife?

What's right with it? No seriously though I just do this with 10mm and above. I know a lot of others do this for all size twin cable and say that gripping it with snips/pliers stretches the earth?

 

[Stroppy]

I've heard the argument about stretching the CPC, but have seen several training videos with Tony wotsit and Brian Scaddan from the IET (I think) say that although technically it will stretch it and reduce the csa, the change will be so miniscule that it makes no practical difference.

When stripping 1-2.5mm I prefer to split the end with snips, then yank evenly on both the brown and blue conductors to peel it apart leaving the cpc in the middle. This way any tension is spread across both conductors, which are thicker than the cpc.

 

[Knobhead]

The odd times I've done T+E I've always run a Stanly knife along the CPC cutting both sides of the cable at the same time. Never nicked the conductor insulation yet. Can't see me ever changing that habit.

 

[Stroppy]

Another successful day for the Stroppy Electrics 'free power for £30' division

 

[rmc86uk]

When stripping 1-2.5mm I prefer to split the end with snips, then yank evenly on both the brown and blue conductors to peel it apart leaving the cpc in the middle. This way any tension is spread across both conductors, which are thicker than the cpc.

Have tried doing this with LSF?

 

[Stroppy]

Thankfully I've never had to use it, yet.

 

[Engineer54]

What you've done looks neat. I just cant see any sense in telling anyone to chop holes in tray like that. Collages must be in a parallel universe. One that bears no semblance of reality.

That's because there is no sense in it!! It's more like, yet another collage instructor, that hasn't got a bloody clue about how to design and install tray. Never have and probably now, never will see tray work with gaping big holes chopped out like that, for cables to pass through!!

If i ever saw anything like that on any of my projects, it would be out, ....dammed quicker than it took to go in!!! lol!!

 

[ipf]

That's because there is no sense in it!! It's more like, yet another collage instructor, that hasn't got a bloody clue about how to design and install tray. Never have and probably now, never will see tray work with gaping big holes chopped out like that, for cables to pass through!!

If i ever saw anything like that on any of my projects, it would be out, ....dammed quicker than it took to go in!!! lol!!

One of those would be working in an art college, so no bloody wonder.lol.

 

[rmc86uk]

If i ever saw anything like that on any of my projects, it would be out, ....dammed quicker than it took to go in!!! lol!!

I can just imagine you going at it with a sledge hammer lol!

 

[Engineer54]

I can just imagine you going at it with a sledge hammer lol!

No, not me, the guy who had installed it would be doing all the ripping out, with me and his boss standing over him, making sure that it did all came out!! lol!!

 

[KWCFC]

No, not me, the guy who had installed it would be doing all the ripping out, with me and his boss standing over him, making sure that it did all came out!! lol!!

Why though? It is unorthodox but there's nothing wrong with it and it looks neat. Seems like a lot of fuss over nothing.