EU Brexit - How will you vote given the latest "news"

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Is that the same quota policy that will soon see the total demise of not just the fishing fleets, but the coastal towns and villages that support them and yet another facet of our country down the drain? This is a fantastic example of how much the EU care about us.

You appear to be under the impression that our fishing communities were some kind of Nirvana pre EU - they were complete and utter cess pits.
It was simply a race to empty the sea as quickly as possible.

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

I believe he is. what has that got to do with anything though?

His ability to debate is somewhat lacking, but to give him some credit he's rather inventive.

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Well it's common knowledge that I'm in the remain camp, however this intelligent, thought provoking and balanced video by those nice Grassroots Out people have made me think again.
I defy any of you 'Inners' to watch and say you're not swayed by their arguments.

https://t.co/ZHW8JYhLwY

They've taken all out fish and money.

That's as indepth an argument as you'll likely ever get.

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

This pretty decent market, as you put it, is dead on its Arse.

Could you define "dead on its arse" please ?


The UK does rather a lot of EU trade, nearly 45% on average - how can that level of activity be deemed to be dead ?

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

We already can, we already do .... why would leaving the EU make that any easier ?

Youve forgotten to answer this question as well .....


How does our EU membership prevent or inhibit us from trading outside of the EU ?

 

[andyb]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Youve forgotten to answer this question as well .....


How does our EU membership prevent or inhibit us from trading outside of the EU ?

While Cameron was touring Europe trying to cut in work benefits to European workers, Hollande was entertaining the Iranian president and singing a 23 billion euro deal with them. The Spanish also did a deal with them.
Someone should tell them that they're not allowed to.

 

[sparksburnout]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

You appear to be under the impression that our fishing communities were some kind of Nirvana pre EU - they were complete and utter cess pits.
It was simply a race to empty the sea as quickly as possible.

Following your disgraceful comments on our fishing communities I am going to cease this pointless argument. I believe most readers will form their own opinion of you given what you have just written. Maybe you should take yourself off down to Cadgwith or Newlyn and re-iterate it in a few pubs down there.

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

While Cameron was touring Europe trying to cut in work benefits to European workers, Hollande was entertaining the Iranian president and singing a 23 billion euro deal with them. The Spanish also did a deal with them.
Someone should tell them that they're not allowed to.

Is that your answer ?

 

[andyb]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Is that your answer ?

Is that my answer to what?

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Following your disgraceful comments on our fishing communities I am going to cease this pointless argument. I believe most readers will form their own opinion of you given what you have just written. Maybe you should take yourself off down to Cadgwith or Newlyn and re-iterate it in a few pubs down there.

When you've climbed off your high horse, read what I've typed - you'll find plenty that agree with the point I've made, especially those living in fishing industry areas.


The fishing industry didn't care for its surroundings, it just wanted to win the race to empty the sea - its taken decades to reverse the damage done back in those not so good old days.


So, other than the fishing point youve tried to make, what other compelling reasons are there to leave ?

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Is that my answer to what?

How does our EU membership prevent or inhibit us from trading outside of the EU ?

 

[andyb]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

How does our EU membership prevent or inhibit us from trading outside of the EU ?

Well yes Sean, that is my answer.

If you care to read it, it says that being in the EU does not prevent us from trading outside the EU as France and Spain demonstrated with their rapid response to the lifting of sanctions on Iran.

 

[Octopus]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

I hope you are a good electrician Murdoch.

Why ???

 

[sparksburnout]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

When you've climbed off your high horse, read what I've typed - you'll find plenty that agree with the point I've made, especially those living in fishing industry areas.


The fishing industry didn't care for its surroundings, it just wanted to win the race to empty the sea - its taken decades to reverse the damage done back in those not so good old days.


So, other than the fishing point youve tried to make, what other compelling reasons are there to leave ?

As I said I am not going to take part in this further, I will just refer you to a couple of things, namely the bar graph at the top of the page and Murdoch's signature, which I think sums things up pretty well in this case.

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

Why ???

I refer the honerable gentlemen to the answer i gave previously #182

 

[sean_ork]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

As I said I am not going to take part in this further, I will just refer you to a couple of things, namely the bar graph at the top of the page and Murdoch's signature, which I think sums things up pretty well in this case.

I'd rather be an idiot than an ostrich - ah yes, polls on here are always truely indicative of the entire population


How daft of me to ignore that "fact"

 

[UNG]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

It is easy for people to look at the EU through rose tinted glasses and miss the underlying picture.

Back in the 70's the UK was on it's backside the 3 day week, power cuts, wage restraint, hardly a week going by without another strike being called somewhere, the offer of joining a common market in 1975 looked like a good idea and most people believed that is what they were joining yet it's hard to find anyone who voted yes

Since then year on year the EU appears to justify it's existence by creating more and more red tape some of it bordering on crass stupidity did we really need "EC Commission Regulation No 2257/94" and no doubt there are many more similar regulations that are unworkable and / or create massive amounts of waste

If you look around the EU today Greece have been teetering on the edge of financial armageddon for a good while and there are a few other countries not far behind them should they fail, Shengen is causing all sorts of problems and disagreement with the rampaging migration from those crossing the Med to Greece all things considered it looks like a ticking bomb just waiting to go off

We keep on hearing the doom and gloom of how Brexit would affect the UK but how would Brexit affect the EU who would they stealth tax then that is assuming it survives to tax another day as the budgetary black hole would have to be filled by someone but there aren't that many paying in now

There are a lot of questions and unfortunately there are not many reliable and credible answers from either side

 

[andyb]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

So what's your problem with 2257/94?

 

[Midwest]

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Well it's common knowledge that I'm in the remain camp, however this intelligent, thought provoking and balanced video by those nice Grassroots Out people have made me think again.
I defy any of you 'Inners' to watch and say you're not swayed by their arguments.

https://t.co/ZHW8JYhLwY

Couldn't watch it anymore after 30 seconds, hope it had a happy ending

 

[sparksburnout]

Re: EU - How will you vote given the latest "news"

So what's your problem with 2257/94?

Are you being serious??? do you have a lot of shares in a supermarket chain? god help us.