The great pat testing scam

[malcolmsanford]

Welcome back Davie the place as not been the same without you, I'm glad to see that you have given me a mention in a previous post.

 

[davie spark]

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[UNG]

As for your last sentence above, in real terms, most public sector workers have already suffered massive paycuts over the last 4/5/ years because they've been denied any increase in wages in that time. What about you? If you are in employment when did you last get a pay increase?

A pay rise for the self employed usually working longer and harder than the previous year and if any of the extra money is left after all the schemes, public sector pensions and hangers on are paid then you have a pay rise, Simples

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[Guest123]

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[netblindpaul]

One last comment, I wish that people would use the term Engineer correctly.

Some of us have studied long & hard for our qualifications, and I have spent more time studying at under & post graduate level than that required for a Medical Doctorate.

I have had my qualifications, experience and competence independently assessed by strangers to get my professional recognition.

Yet someone who has done 1/2 a days training can title themselves Engineer.

One of the best things that Europe could ever do is to make the title Engineer protected in law across Europe as it is in some European countries and other countries around the world.

Please if you are not registered as a Professional Engineer, don't try to be something you are not, because you will be found out oh so easily and this will just discredit yourself and your employer.

 

[alarm man]

One last comment, I wish that people would use the term Engineer correctly.

Some of us have studied long & hard for our qualifications, and I have spent more time studying at under & post graduate level than that required for a Medical Doctorate.

I have had my qualifications, experience and competence independently assessed by strangers to get my professional recognition.

Yet someone who has done 1/2 a days training can title themselves Engineer.

One of the best things that Europe could ever do is to make the title Engineer protected in law across Europe as it is in some European countries and other countries around the world.

Please if you are not registered as a Professional Engineer, don't try to be something you are not, because you will be found out oh so easily and this will just discredit yourself and your employer.

totally agree paul,my job title is security engineer,im not an engineer never will be,im an alarm man/sparky and always will be,the term engineer is being devalued across many trades..imo

 

[jaresquire]

Wasn't Casey Jones an Engineer?

 

[netblindpaul]

Ironically jaresquire,
The US is now one of the territories where the title Engineer is protected!

 

[jaresquire]

Fair play!

 

[UNG]

Does this mean we can't engineer a solution to a problem without proper qualification as an engineer ?

 

[longshanks]

Just had some testers in the offices today and i reckon there is about 300 - 350 appliances to check, they came in and said they have agreed to do visuals on iT stuff, so left em to it and observed now and then, It took them 45 mins to complete and not once did they check the cables or appliances (some of the locations were a nightmare to get to but accesable.they just took the old labels off and then sat around playing with their machines put another lable on then off to the next one.I have never seen this, I MUST NOT SWEAR, approach to this like this before and totally amazed about it.I can't mention where i work but the contract they have is massive and if they do testing !!!!! this quick they must make a fortune.Time to inform somebody i think

 

[wildgoose]

Really liked the 1st letter by Wirepuller. It is so true what you said!

Just to add my 10 pennyworth. I was recently told in no uncertain terms by a secretary in a legal firm, that my quote was far too expensive and inferred I was out to rip them off. There were 150 items on the list to be tested "plus a few new ones scattered around the offices" so that probably means a total of over 170 items.

She told me that a specialist PAT Testing Company had quoted the job at just over 50% of my quote. The ENGINEER told her he would be able to complete all the work in a day and he would be working on his own.

This clever little self important legal secretary, obviously puts financial gain over their safety. When will legistlation catch up with the PAT label sticking cowboys out there??

 

[UNG]

This clever little self important legal secretary, obviously puts financial gain over their safety. When will legistlation catch up with the PAT label sticking cowboys out there??

May be she has a good lawyer that can get her off any charges that may result from going for the cheaper option

 

[i=p/u]

at the end of the day its for employers to do as much resonaly practable to protect their employees and if having that certificate from 1 day course engineer of pat testing.. ands its good value to them, they are going to take it..

 

[meddy]

I woulden't let Chopper test a class 2he can't even spell lol