Good Old Delroy, he gets all the best Jobs :)

Dustydazzler · Oct 10, 2021

lozarus · May 2, 2022

I've had to entirely unfollow him now. I
get berated for not being AM2 qualified. The latest efixx video basically confirmed that I'm not "a real electrician". And yet Dels latest video shows no understanding of gas interlock. But wait....I'm the unqualified/ inexperienced guy.

Dustydazzler · May 2, 2022

lozarus said:
I've had to entirely unfollow him now. I
get berated for not being AM2 qualified. The latest efixx video basically confirmed that I'm not "a real electrician". And yet Dels latest video shows no understanding of gas interlock. But wait....I'm the unqualified/ inexperienced guy.

Del belongs to the NICEIC which means he is 'gold standard'

Pretty Mouth · May 2, 2022

lozarus said:
I've had to entirely unfollow him now. I
get berated for not being AM2 qualified. The latest efixx video basically confirmed that I'm not "a real electrician". And yet Dels latest video shows no understanding of gas interlock. But wait....I'm the unqualified/ inexperienced guy.

efixx do some good videos, but don't take them too seriously when they talk about what qualifications you need in order to call yourself an electrician.

lozarus · May 2, 2022

Pretty Mouth said:
efixx do some good videos, but don't take them too seriously when they talk about what qualifications you need in order to call yourself an electrician.

Yeah don't get me wrong. I really like the guys and have learned a tonne through them. The latest video just wound me up a bit - its worth remembering "electrician" isn't a protected term by law. You Don't need to have a gold card to be competent, which the last video seemed to suggest. But I largely enjoy their content. But the content I see from Del seems to consistently share standards that we on this forum would generally berate if they came from a DIY chap - but seem to be seen as acceptable to some because of his 'experience'.

pc1966 · May 2, 2022

Dustydazzler said:
Del belongs to the NICEIC which means he is 'gold standard'

You mean like this?

[ElectriciansForums.net] Good Old Delroy, he gets all the best Jobs :)

littlespark · May 2, 2022

lozarus said:
Yeah don't get me wrong. I really like the guys and have learned a tonne through them. The latest video just wound me up a bit - its worth remembering "electrician" isn't a protected term by law. You Don't need to have a gold card to be competent, which the last video seemed to suggest. But I largely enjoy their content. But the content I see from Del seems to consistently share standards that we on this forum would generally berate if they came from a DIY chap - but seem to be seen as acceptable to some because of his 'experience'.

lets say i've got "over 30 years experience" from becoming an apprentice aged 16..... Maybe i can blunder through jobs and film it... make a bit of cash

lozarus · May 2, 2022

littlespark said:
lets say i've got "over 30 years experience" from becoming an apprentice aged 16..... Maybe i can blunder through jobs and film it... make a bit of cash

That's the thing though. You just can't categorise it. I manage a 63 year old ex-install electrician. He's just awful to be frank - won't use a wago - thinks they're flimsy. Bakelite screw junction box suspended in thin air for anything. Safe zones unheard of. My old man however is a Readers Digest special. No qualifications but when I PIR / EICR'd the house he rewired well before I was born (think early 70s) I just couldn't fault it. Fortunately my cousin-by-marriage is a trading spark - when he was relatively new to the famalam I had him do an EICR just I'm case I'd been biased. He couldn't fault it either. He's been married to my cousin for 6 years now and I keep asking if he lied on the report just to impress us. He maintains he didn't. Likewise I work with some fantastic fully qualified AM2 guys in their 60s who are fantastic. I also manage some unqualified entry short course guys who are passionate in the trade who produce fantastic work. I've forgotten my point (it's bank holiday so beers a flowin). But yeah. Peace to all - don't read into the tickets. A passionate guy or gal is all we need.

Pretty Mouth · May 2, 2022

lozarus said:
Yeah don't get me wrong. I really like the guys and have learned a tonne through them. The latest video just wound me up a bit - its worth remembering "electrician" isn't a protected term by law. You Don't need to have a gold card to be competent, which the last video seemed to suggest. But I largely enjoy their content. But the content I see from Del seems to consistently share standards that we on this forum would generally berate if they came from a DIY chap - but seem to be seen as acceptable to some because of his 'experience'.

The efixx vid I'm thinking of is a year or so old, with Gary telling someone they weren't allowed to call themselves an electrician, as they hadn't got whatever qualification, and comparing electrical work to that of a surgeon or pilot. Sure, there's more to our work than meets the eye, and there are potential consequences if we get it wrong, but that's stretching the imagination a tad. The bulk of their content is good though.

7029 dave · May 2, 2022

lozarus said:
I've had to entirely unfollow him now. I
get berated for not being AM2 qualified. The latest efixx video basically confirmed that I'm not "a real electrician". And yet Dels latest video shows no understanding of gas interlock. But wait....I'm the unqualified/ inexperienced guy.

I have never sat the AM2 why, because it was not even born when I qualified.
So I must be the unqualified /inexperienced too, BUT at least I have worked with MICC cables over the years jokes dont listen to anyone. lol

Dustydazzler · May 2, 2022

Pretty Mouth said:
The efixx vid I'm thinking of is a year or so old, with Gary telling someone they weren't allowed to call themselves an electrician, as they hadn't got whatever qualification, and comparing electrical work to that of a surgeon or pilot. Sure, there's more to our work than meets the eye, and there are potential consequences if we get it wrong, but that's stretching the imagination a tad. The bulk of their content is good though.

Efixx are for ever pushing the 'qualification' rhetoric , and want sparks to be seen as the higher power when it comes to the trades. I kind of see what their agenda is , and in a way I buy in to it as they want sparks charging £250 per hour for rolls royce installs.
But the real world is full of Delroys and Chris the Plumbers , and that ain't changing any time soon...

UNG · May 2, 2022

7029 dave said:
I have never sat the AM2 why, because it was not even born when I qualified.
So I must be the unqualified /inexperienced too, BUT at least I have worked with MICC cables over the years jokes dont listen to anyone. lol

Same for me no AM2 and no NVQ 3 either but I have loads of MICC experience

I always remember an apprentice who worked for me in the late 90's failing his first attempt at the AM2 on the fault finding section with a lot of bravado he reckoned I would struggle and wouldn't be able to find it, so having been challenged I asked if he had the sheet with the diagram on and he brought the booklet in the following morning, took me all of 10 minutes to find the fault that he hadn't in 2½ hours

westward10 · May 2, 2022

Nor me.

Dustydazzler · May 2, 2022

Is AM2 now the 'gold standard' for new sparks ?

Been 20 years since i was a college and back then it was 236 Pt2 , C and 2391 then you were fully qualled up

nicebutdim · May 2, 2022

I take it members who completed an apprenticeship many decades ago had to undertake some sort of exam or assessment? That's what the AM2 is - an independent assessment of ability, under exam conditions.

It makes sense that people entering the trade are assessed in this manner, but it's plain daft to suggest that someone who qualified prior to its introduction isn't an electrician - it's like suggesting that O levels are now redundant and that everyone who sat them now needs to sit GCSEs.

westward10 · May 2, 2022

nicebutdim said:
I take it members who completed an apprenticeship many decades ago had to undertake some sort of exam or assessment? That's what the AM2 is - an independent assessment of ability, under exam conditions.

It makes sense that people entering the trade are assessed in this manner, but it's plain daft to suggest that someone who qualified prior to its introduction isn't an electrician - it's like suggesting that O levels are now redundant and that everyone who sat them now needs to sit GCSEs.

No I just gave them a couple of bottles of Scotch, blagged through ever since.

nicebutdim · May 2, 2022

westward10 said:
No I just gave them a couple of bottles of Scotch, blagged through ever since.

I'll keep that in mind when my turn comes

Petej999 · May 3, 2022

Dustydazzler said:
Del belongs to the NICEIC which means he is 'gold standard'

Not always Dusty not always!

7029 dave · May 3, 2022

nicebutdim said:
I take it members who completed an apprenticeship many decades ago had to undertake some sort of exam or assessment? That's what the AM2 is - an independent assessment of ability, under exam conditions.

It makes sense that people entering the trade are assessed in this manner, but it's plain daft to suggest that someone who qualified prior to its introduction isn't an electrician - it's like suggesting that O levels are now redundant and that everyone who sat them now needs to sit GCSEs.

The practical modules of the course was part of the C&G syllabus, so basically if you failed the practical that was a fail even before you took the written part, there was a pass bench mark cant remember the percentage. However I dont recall anyone failing the practical, you would have to be rubbish. lol

SparkySy · May 3, 2022

I remember doing the AM2 back in the 90s there were 22 on the course and only 4 of us passed it! Some very upset employers!!
Sy

Lister1987 · May 3, 2022

AM2; the GOLD standard, so much so we have 3 versions of it!

I rarely watch eFixx stuff; the series on conduit, Regulation Corner and few other gems but other than that I'll go to thier individual channels; GSH & Joe Robinson.

Petej999 · May 3, 2022

Matthewd29 said:
From his videos I honestly think his work is fairly poor. The way he leaves some jobs leave a lot to be desired.

UNG · May 3, 2022

Lister1987 said:
AM2; the GOLD standard, so much so we have 3 versions of it!

I would hardly call it the GOLD standard

nicebutdim · May 3, 2022

Lister1987 said:
AM2; the GOLD standard, so much so we have 3 versions of it!

You realise the difference between the three is time allocated.

Dustydazzler · May 8, 2022

Beautiful...

goasis · May 8, 2022

Dustydazzler said:
Beautiful...

I wonder if him waffling on is edited down...

Also, did he leave all the old circuits connected? I thought the whole point was the customer wanted to strip all the existing wiring out?!

Surely there should be a note left telling the customer which socket to use if he wants to use is power tools in the garden cos it's sunny now

. I mean surely he looked at that and thought how ludicrous it was

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