Scotland to ban oil and gas-fired boilers in all new homes from 2024
Proposal means Scottish government will introduce ban ahead of England and Wales
uk.yahoo.com
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This 100% . Most accept the "narrative" dished out .Why do I think it's a scam?
Mostly because public consideration of alternative views is simply not allowed. If you don't parrot the accepted lines you're a denier and people will attempt to discredit or silence you. There is compelling evidence that what we are experiencing is largely due to the natural cycles of the planet... I don't deny we've had an impact, to do so would be foolish at best, but I don't believe the situation is as terminal as it's being painted to be.
For the majority of people, it needs to be seen as an imminent major catastrophe. Anything else and they won't accept the changes that are being foisted on us. As @UNG says, this is another means of controlling us. We've just demonstrated how much we're willing to accept if it's for the greater good over the last couple of years and it's scary how readily people simply stopped doing many of the things we take for granted.
There's a whole bunch of stuff that I'm not going to talk about publicly because to be fair a lot of it makes you sound like a crazy when you say it. I'll probably post in The Arms with a few of the things I'm trying to keep track of.
Who gains?
Financiers and people selling products and services that are seen as climate friendly. Certainly not us, the everyday prole on the street... we stand to loose everything.
Mostly because public consideration of alternative views is simply not allowed.
Same as those that claim 99% of GP's have no more of a clue about covid than clever people who spent hours and hours researching it over the last 2 yearsAn unfortunate situation with many issues in this day and age. There is no middle ground and you're either right or a conspiracy theorist. I'm not sure when it became unacceptable to ask reasonable questions, but in the past it was very much encouraged of people to question that which they did not fully understand.
An unfortunate situation with many issues in this day and age. There is no middle ground and you're either right or a conspiracy theorist. I'm not sure when it became unacceptable to ask reasonable questions, but in the past it was very much encouraged of people to question that which they did not fully understand.
they’ve built an industry around it and won’t stop now….What the green zealots don't mention is that CO2 levels had been declining for millennia... had they continued unabated, they would have reached the magic level at which there wasn't enough to sustain plant life and the planet would have died. If you go back to the most verdant period of earths history, CO2 was at levels around 6000ppm... we're panicking about them being over 400ppm? Evidence shows the planet is greener now than it was 30 years ago and that this is a result of increasing CO2 levels... this is good for us because more CO2 has a huge impact on plant life... it grows bigger, faster and is more resilient to drought events (all of this information is out there in peer reviewed papers, but hey... it's not the official narrative so it doesn't get air time).
Like wise, temperatures.... in geological terms, the industrial revolution is a heart beat for the planet and yes, there is no doubt we have had a minor impact on temperatures, but in the grand scheme of things, the earth is not at it's hottest. It is at the tail end of an ice age so it's stands to reason that the cycle which has been going on for millennia is continuing and it will continue to get warmer (the reasons for this are mainly due to orbital cycles of various astronomical bodies).
Wild fires... the scientific suggests that the area burned annually is actually decreasing if you look at longer term, likewise for serious weather events... the trend is actually downwards. But that's not the impression you get from the scaremongering media.
Sure, we need to cut back on fossil fuels and retain them for things such as plastics, but from an electricity generating perspective, the sensible course of action would have been to build more nuclear... long term it's the cleanest, safest, most energy dense form
of power generation we have... but again, the green zealots have done a number and scared everyone. In it's history, hydroelectric power has killed more people than nuclear and I think deaths resulting from accidents involving renewables is higher as well.
It's all a big scam and if it continues there is a very real chance it will bankrupt the country.
Theyev
they’ve built an industry around it and won’t stop now….
I vote sparkychick for PMWhat the green zealots don't mention is that CO2 levels had been declining for millennia... had they continued unabated, they would have reached the magic level at which there wasn't enough to sustain plant life and the planet would have died. If you go back to the most verdant period of earths history, CO2 was at levels around 6000ppm... we're panicking about them being over 400ppm? Evidence shows the planet is greener now than it was 30 years ago and that this is a result of increasing CO2 levels... this is good for us because more CO2 has a huge impact on plant life... it grows bigger, faster and is more resilient to drought events (all of this information is out there in peer reviewed papers, but hey... it's not the official narrative so it doesn't get air time).
Like wise, temperatures.... in geological terms, the industrial revolution is a heart beat for the planet and yes, there is no doubt we have had a minor impact on temperatures, but in the grand scheme of things, the earth is not at it's hottest. It is at the tail end of an ice age so it's stands to reason that the cycle which has been going on for millennia is continuing and it will continue to get warmer (the reasons for this are mainly due to orbital cycles of various astronomical bodies).
Wild fires... the scientific suggests that the area burned annually is actually decreasing if you look at longer term, likewise for serious weather events... the trend is actually downwards. But that's not the impression you get from the scaremongering media.
Sure, we need to cut back on fossil fuels and retain them for things such as plastics, but from an electricity generating perspective, the sensible course of action would have been to build more nuclear... long term it's the cleanest, safest, most energy dense form
of power generation we have... but again, the green zealots have done a number and scared everyone. In it's history, hydroelectric power has killed more people than nuclear and I think deaths resulting from accidents involving renewables is higher as well.
It's all a big scam and if it continues there is a very real chance it will bankrupt the country.
I think SC is spot on, the green agenda is a good thing for me though as im heavily into renewables and ev.
It amazes me that people spend 8-10k on battery storage to save a several hundred a year in electric!
Sold a 10kwh ac coupled system to a guy this week so he can charge using off peak electric rates at 7.5p per kwh and then during day avoid importing from grid. His pay back period assuming prices stay same is nearly 8 years. I was honest and said i dont think its worth the outlay but he says he feels like he has to set an example to his granddaughters and help protect the environment!!! Its like a cult where all reason is lost.
At the end of the day if folks want this kit i am happy to install it and make the money.
Lithium ion batteriy production isnt very green either!
My belief is we are heading towards a global resource shortage.Why do you think it's a scam @SparkyChick ? I'm not saying you're take on the science is right or wrong - I'm not qualified to do so - but if it's deliberate, long term deceit (I think it was still the 80's when I first heard about it), who gains from it?
All posters to this section have renewed my faith that not everyone in the UK has gone bonkers. Its always been that when discussing various subjects with customers and many others you meet that it rarely compares to what we are being fed by the media.
You seem to have defined Twitter in three lines!The worst part of this is that the bulk of it is driven by an incredibly small number of very vocal people and no one wants to be seen by anyone else as disregarding their issues because that would make you think... if they don't give a dam about them... do they give a dam about me?
Does this mean that all the "gas engineers" are to be down graded back to "plumbers"?Scotland to ban oil and gas-fired boilers in all new homes from 2024
Proposal means Scottish government will introduce ban ahead of England and Walesuk.yahoo.com
Well looking at the data (assuming global warming is actually caused by burning fossil fuels) with the current technology on batteries, from start to finish, mining the raw materials to disposing of the battery at the end of its life, you will need to do 400,000 + miles in your new electric van on the original battery for it to work out "greener" overall than your diesel van. So I'd stick with the old diesel and keep on burning the chip fat.i considered getting an electric van, scrapping gas and going all electric, fitting solar panels and a wind generator. my bank manager fell off his chair.
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