Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

Darkwood · Mar 21, 2015

Right ... Just been nudged to set this up by Paul.M and sounds a good idea following recent threads I've done in the Arms..

Rules....No Offensive material... edit if required before posting as this is the public arena.
Anything to do with the trade or in and around it ...H&S pic's welcome.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Dodgy trade pictures for your amusement! - 1 Million Views!

I've posted this a few times and this is at a mates house following a kitchen refirb several yrs ago.

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Dave OCD · Mar 2, 2023

Wow, you'd expect them to be sorting that out for free as it's their equipment and well past its sell by date !

mainline · Mar 2, 2023

Pity they didn't do it when they had a meter change in 2021.

happysteve said:
You assume correctly. And installing an isolator too. For the princely sum of £287.09+VAT

Looks like it had a meter in 2021.

happysteve · Mar 2, 2023

mainline said:
Pity they didn't do it when they had a meter change in 2021.

Looks like it had a meter in 2021.

I noticed that. Whoever did the meter change and pulled the fuse on that ISCO has better pants than me

happysteve · Mar 2, 2023

Dave OCD said:
Wow, you'd expect them to be sorting that out for free as it's their equipment and well past its sell by date !

They'd change the head for free if they'd installed the earth - they clearly hadn't - or someone needed to pull the fuse - like a meter change. But the fee is for providing a PME earth, and fitting an isolator. The head - and the associated work, like digging a hole in the client's front garden - is effectively free

LewisM · Mar 2, 2023

happysteve said:
They'd change the head for free if they'd installed the earth - they clearly hadn't - or someone needed to pull the fuse - like a meter change. But the fee is for providing a PME earth, and fitting an isolator. The head - and the associated work, like digging a hole in the client's front garden - is effectively free

Not a bad deal in the grand scheme of things

timhoward · Mar 3, 2023

Today's fun and games. A few interesting period features and no shortage of eyebrow raisers.

My immediate suspicion about Neutral no 1 was correct:

The lighting in double insulated 1-core had more recent CPC's added, and upstairs just about checked out.
Downstairs didn't - only the hall and lobby was giving an R1+R2. All other downstairs lighting had such a large induced voltage (27v) on the separate CPC that the the tester refused to do a continuity test, so there's a missing or broken link. This was also leading to interesting flashing effects of LED bulbs when turned off, lasting minutes in some cases.

DPG · Mar 3, 2023

timhoward said:
Today's fun and games. A few interesting period features and no shortage of eyebrow raisers.

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My immediate suspicion about Neutral no 1 was correct:
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The lighting in double insulated 1-core had more recent CPC's added, and upstairs just about checked out.
Downstairs didn't - only the hall and lobby was giving an R1+R2. All other downstairs lighting had such a large induced voltage (27v) on the separate CPC that the the tester refused to do a continuity test, so there's a missing or broken link. This was also leading to interesting flashing effects of LED bulbs when turned off, lasting minutes in some cases.

What's the white box before the meter?

timhoward · Mar 3, 2023

DPG said:
What's the white box before the meter?

This is one of several properties on the same private estate, There is a substation on site and upstream distribution boards.
It's just an enclosure where the distribution circuit's SWA is badly terminated and the cores pass right through to the meter!

MJPD29 · Mar 3, 2023

timhoward said:
Today's fun and games. A few interesting period features and no shortage of eyebrow raisers.

View attachment 106532
View attachment 106533
My immediate suspicion about Neutral no 1 was correct:
View attachment 106534

The lighting in double insulated 1-core had more recent CPC's added, and upstairs just about checked out.
Downstairs didn't - only the hall and lobby was giving an R1+R2. All other downstairs lighting had such a large induced voltage (27v) on the separate CPC that the the tester refused to do a continuity test, so there's a missing or broken link. This was also leading to interesting flashing effects of LED bulbs when turned off, lasting minutes in some cases.

Is it badly fitted over the top of an older recessed board?

mainline · Mar 3, 2023

timhoward said:
This is one of several properties on the same private estate, There is a substation on site and upstream distribution boards.
It's just an enclosure where the distribution circuit's SWA is badly terminated and the cores pass right through to the meter!

It looks to me like either the owner or Mr do it all has done that work.

timhoward · Mar 3, 2023

MJPD29 said:
Is it badly fitted over the top of an older recessed board?

Yes. It looks like they put in a new kitchen ring when they changed the board, as all other circuits are stranded zinc plated copper.

mainline said:
It looks to me like either the owner or Mr do it all has done that work.

"Mr do it all" who was employed by the owner has just retired after many years tinkering with this installation. After a quick look around I've politely declined to touch anything until the relevant part of the installation has had an 100% EICR. This one was consumer unit 3 out of 12 that are for living accommodation (which we agreed to do first). There are a further 3 identical properties to look forward to!

timhoward · Mar 4, 2023

Well that's one approach....makes me wonder who would know enough to feel a fuse is needed but still feel comfortable doing this!

Dave OCD · Mar 4, 2023

That's strange because for something so non-compliant it's actually pretty neatly done - the 90 degree bend on the T&E where it goes vertical is very nicely done for example.

timhoward · Mar 4, 2023

Dave OCD said:
That's strange because for something so non-compliant it's actually pretty neatly done - the 90 degree bend on the T&E where it goes vertical is very nicely done for example.

I've since wondered whether the switchgear changed and the old arrangement had provision for the lighting circuit.
I need to go back here to take lots of photo's, there's a large transformer / rectifier for a pipe organ below the switched fuse. Behind the photo is the bell rope and a vintage (long broken) electronic bell so someone the other end of the church could signal when to start and stop ringing.