Rewirable fuses and the old wylex boards

Guest123 · Jan 15, 2012

What about the issue of the 3036 fusing factor and the RFC circuit installed in 2.5mm T+E with 1.0mm CPC???

App Doc P, advocates either the changing of the cables AND/OR the consumer unit.

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baldsparkies · Jan 15, 2012

Nicely put 54, a true gentlemen.
I don't start threads like this to create arguments. I feel that with so much diversity within the electrical industry its important that all who practice this wonderful trade.
Embrace there ability to be thinking electricians, and not just bury there heads in a regs book.
Its not about knowing what and where a regulation is in that big brown, yellow, red, green, whatever colour they decide book your reading. Its about knowing why that regulation is there, and identifying how it relates to your particuler situation. They are there for GUIDANCE in the end its your call, because you are the man in the field.
A driver may use a map to get from A to B, but he is the one who has to drive there.
Only recently a cruise ship has capsized. A couple decided to ignore the advice given by crew mambers (who were giving that advice in an official capacity) In doing so, they saved there lives.
Sadly I am in the last phase of my career as a sparky, And the only advice I can give is make sure your a THINKING sparks. NEVER be afraid or to proud to ASK. And always remember, no matter how complicated a situation may seem. The answer is usually very simple.
Now shut up baldie you silly old sod, and go and wash the truck.

baldsparkies · Jan 15, 2012

Lenny said:
What about the issue of the 3036 fusing factor and the RFC circuit installed in 2.5mm T+E with 1.0mm CPC???

App Doc P, advocates either the changing of the cables AND/OR the consumer unit.

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View would be regulations going down the road of pushing rewirables out of service Lenny, which is IMHO a good thing (for lots of reasons).
Thats why I gave the thermal effects on the cpc during fault conditions a mention in my posts.
And that did not come out the book. It was seen and proven in a practical situation. (More than once in my run ins with Wylex boards)
I am still learning,we all are. But we learn through our experiences.
As I said lets see what ammendment 2 brings. Watch that space.

Abacusgroup · Jan 15, 2012

Actually Wylex have now stopped producing the BS 3871 Push Fit MCB's sop whats left on the shelves is it ladies and gents. Some Branches of Newey and Eyre have back orders for over 1600 Units of these products particularly 16A ones.

IQ Electrical · Jan 15, 2012

Abacusgroup said:
Actually Wylex have now stopped producing the BS 3871 Push Fit MCB's sop whats left on the shelves is it ladies and gents. Some Branches of Newey and Eyre have back orders for over 1600 Units of these products particularly 16A ones.

But the BS EN 60898 models are still being produced, why would you want BS 3871?

SPARTYKUS · Jan 15, 2012

IQ Electrical said:
But the BS EN 60898 models are still being produced, why would you want BS 3871?

Nice embossing on the side and I enjoy the nostalgia

Abacusgroup · Jan 15, 2012

BS 60898 Plug ins for Wylex Boards..... ??????

Des 56 · Jan 15, 2012

Abacusgroup said:
BS 60898 Plug ins for Wylex Boards..... ??????

Correct so far,and your point is?

[ElectriciansForums.net] Rewirable fuses and the old wylex boards

IQ Electrical · Jan 15, 2012

Abacusgroup said:
BS 60898 Plug ins for Wylex Boards..... ??????

Like these:

SafetyFirst · Jan 16, 2012

telectrix said:
same with everything, mate. if you overload it it will break. those old rewireable boards are OK as long as they are kept within their design limitations. 2 x 10kW showers and a 15kW cooker ain't .

True, i'm too lazy to change mine but it's a bungalow that hasn't radically changed electrically, not much to it, would last another 50 years i reckon with some tlc.

Ponty Massive · Jan 29, 2012

From this......

To this......

and yes I charged more than £150 and yes it took me longer than 1.5 hours :tounge_smile:

Knobhead · Jan 29, 2012

You should be chuffed with that

Graeme Harrold · Jan 29, 2012

As they say in the south "TIDY"!!

baldsparkies · Jan 29, 2012

Ponty Massive said:
From this......

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To this......

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and yes I charged more than £150 and yes it took me longer than 1.5 hours :tounge_smile:

And I for one know which board I would prefer. We owe it to consumers, as professionals in the field. To inform them of the very real advantages of a new dual rcd board.
Its simply not enough to state that these old dinasours are still up to the mark.
I would not sleep at night knowing I had left some old pensioner thinking his or her rewirable board offers the protection that they need.
They don't and most electricians know this. Don't care how you choose to interprete the regs, its still your call.

Knobhead · Jan 30, 2012

Just to chuck a rock in your pool. A major disadvantage of the MCB is the ease it can be repeatedly reset by an elderly person.

A very good friend of mine (an industrial spark) fitted 60898’s in his mother’s house. The house had been re-wired to the as then current 15[SUP]th[/SUP] edition. He then went to work abroad leaving the message with mum, any problems get in touch with Tony, (I was only around the corner).

So the MCB for the immersion tripped, mother being one of those independent types reset it. It instantly tripped, she reset it again, and again, , , , , , , , , , Eventually the hot water cylinder exploded.

Had it been wire she would have had to give me a call. Plus saved me a lot of work repairing the house, Doug, her son was in China at the time so was a bit stuck as to helping out.

New isn’t always the best.

No I wouldn't go back to rewireables..... But.

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