sockets wired in 1.0mm 3 core flex

Guitarist · Aug 19, 2012

needasparks said:
with lighting cable on the sockets and skirting on the worktop do you think the kitchen drawing was scaled wrong ? easy mistake to make.

TBH over the years i think i've come across the use of smaller cables being used the most incorrectly, perhaps if the sheds only sold 2.5 and up and done away with the smaller sizes may half the amount of bodges they do.

Maybe the shed only had 2.5mm T&E in stock, which is why the installer went for the 1mm flex

Geoffsd · Aug 19, 2012

Just realised that no one has queried that the flex actually is 1mm².

Has the OP, perhaps, made another mistake and got this wrong too?

Rockingit · Aug 19, 2012

You might like to point your customer in the direction of trading standards....this sounds like a right old bag of spanners. Electrically speaking I'd leave well alone, tell the customer WHY (if needs be give the phone number for BCO, always a good 'I know what I'm on about' tool) and let them get on with suing someone whilst you do the rest of the job.

SPARTYKUS · Aug 19, 2012

Guitarist said:
Maybe the shed only had 2.5mm T&E in stock, which is why the installer went for the 1mm flex

looks like 0.75

needasparks · Aug 19, 2012

The story does not say exactly who carried out the work other than it was wired so surely it must have been the owner.
I would think most people that have had a job done incorrectly would want their head on a stick and it corrected FOC but it seems they want it brushed under the carpet reading between the lines, more so as there has been no response from the OP.
There has been loads of regs thrown about trying to justify leaving this flex in place which we all know should not be done, even the OP knows it deep down, hence his asking. de-rating the circuit is no more than polishing a T##d.

Guest55 · Aug 19, 2012

richy3333 said:
I see the OP'S not been back after several pages of postings.

Thats because he's realised that him and the customer are up to their necks in it.
And after reading his other post on rewiring a house using imperial conduit and skirting sockets , he's clearly not learnt anything since.
Its this sort of crap that hacks me off , domestic installs are without doubt the simpliest form of electrical work there is and yet it gets buggered up daily.

Geordie Spark · Aug 19, 2012

Guitarist said:
It is really scary that these people are allowed to buy tools!

These people ARE tools !!!

Amp David · Aug 19, 2012

biff55 said:
Thats because he's realised that him and the customer are up to their necks in it.
And after reading his other post on rewiring a house using imperial conduit and skirting sockets , he's clearly not learnt anything since.
Its this sort of crap that hacks me off , domestic installs are without doubt the simpliest form of electrical work there is and yet it gets buggered up daily.

Because its done cheap as chips.

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electrician4u · Aug 19, 2012

When I did the PIR of course I agreed the extent to what I would check.The customer said the kitchen had just been done so no need to check.As the supply to the kitchen was fed from 2x 2.5 cables and joined behind the washing machine somewhere I had no immediate need for concern.If anyone here says they check every cable, socket, light fitting, CU, light switch etc. they must have very understanding customers to pay for all that time.I've done everything by the book. My customer wants to spend as little as possible (what's new?)...Her husband (I've just found out) wired the kitchen sockets and I've now told her the whole lot's gotta come out. Thanks to those with constructive suggestions.

ruston · Aug 19, 2012

To be honest alarm bells should have rung when a new installation has no certification in this day and age, and they opted for another electrician. But I suppose we can all get sucked in.

snowhead · Aug 19, 2012

As the kitchen is primarily fed with 2 x 2.5mm, there is no option to derate the mcb, as in the future someone else may see the 2.5's and just stick a 32a back in.

electrician4u · Aug 19, 2012

you cannot be serious??there are guys on here criticising my credentials when there's this comment that on a ring any load placed 1/4 way round a ring circuit would load the cable at a ratio of 3 to 1....scary!!I guess maths is not everyone's strong point

Guest55 · Aug 19, 2012

electrician4u said:
............The customer said the kitchen had just been done so no need to check.

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Deleted member 26818 · Aug 19, 2012

electrician4u said:
I guess maths is not everyone's strong point

Quite so.

electrician4u · Aug 19, 2012

needasparks said:
Sorry fella but you ARE trying to milk them as this problem should have been spotted and mentioned to them before you started.
people on here are trying to advise your question and it would seem you know better than them as you don't want to accept the replies.
Perhaps they should rewrite the regs for each job you want to do to suit you.

from what I've gathered so far, it's not against the regs which is what I wanted to know.Why should it have been spotted before I started? does your customers pay you to inspect every item before you do a job? thought not

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