Spot what's wrong

Redvanman · Sep 2, 2014

For the eagle eyed out there, can you tell me whats wrong with this arrangement and for a bonus point what reg. no. would apply.

The only bit of info you need is that its a TT system.

[ElectriciansForums.net] Spot what's wrong

Bobster · Sep 2, 2014

Daves beaten me ^^

Although you should have picked these up yourself having been to the job.

Bobster · Sep 2, 2014

Not to mention lack of earth fault protection, an RCBOs on their own aren't suitable for use on TT systems. In fact some manufacturers have it in bold print in their instructions that they aren't suitable.

Redvanman · Sep 2, 2014

davesparks said:
Ferrules!

No cover over the ends of the bussbar.

No additional protection to the tails in metal DB

I took the covers off to have a look
Ferrules not needed as the neutral fly leads come pre crimped

but yes your right about the up front RCD but only cos theres no grommet etc

RoB2 was the cover your one?

Redvanman · Sep 2, 2014

davesparks said:
And it looks like the neutral may be squished under the screw rather than between the plate and the moving 'cage' bit.

Neutrals ok

Bobster · Sep 2, 2014

Redvanman said:
I took the covers off to have a look
Ferrules not needed as the neutral fly leads come pre crimped

but yes your right about the up front RCD but only cos theres no grommet etc

RoB2 was the cover your one?

They don't look pre-crimped to me, in fact they look like they are splaying out. Maybe that's just the quality when I zoomed in.

stimpy · Sep 2, 2014

This really is a poor install.

As to price guess, i can't see how many ways or rcbos but whats on show would be around £400 + all his expert (teehee) time crimping dodgy cables etc so i'll go with £1K !!! + VAT of course

Redvanman · Sep 2, 2014

RoB2 said:
They don't look pre-crimped to me, in fact they look like they are splaying out. Maybe that's just the quality when I zoomed in.

Heres one from my van

Redvanman · Sep 2, 2014

stimpy said:
This really is a poor install.

As to price guess, i can't see how many ways or rcbos but whats on show would be around £400 + all his expert (teehee) time crimping dodgy cables etc so i'll go with £1K !!! + VAT of course

Close 2K + VAT
11 circuits

davesparks · Sep 2, 2014

Redvanman said:
Heres one from my van

View attachment 26115

Yeah that's a decent cable end that's going to be reliable isn't it!

Redvanman · Sep 2, 2014

davesparks said:
Yeah that's a decent cable end that's going to be reliable isn't it!

No different to the ends on the flying neutral leads in dual boards.
They are manufactured so that you do not need to use ferrules.

davesparks · Sep 2, 2014

Redvanman said:
They are manufactured so that you do not need to use ferrules.

Only if you need them to be that length, which you rarely do. Ferrules are required for all those that get shortened.

So if those RCBO tails are all the full length they are supplied at does that mean there is another fault of a load of neutral tails all bunched together getting nice and toasty?

Bobster · Sep 2, 2014

FFS Dave

Redvanman · Sep 2, 2014

davesparks said:
Only if you need them to be that length, which you rarely do. Ferrules are required for all those that get shortened.

So if those RCBO tails are all the full length they are supplied at does that mean there is another fault of a load of neutral tails all bunched together getting nice and toasty?

well it looks like he threw the cables in so neatness was defo not his objective

davesparks · Sep 2, 2014

its a good job those ones aren't supplied with the flying leads cable tied in a bunch like other brands then, or else they'd have left proper little heating coils in there!