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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    no.also needs more than a hammer like others said above i,f you see those photos!
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    then it's simply not worth the hassle, in the middle of a pandemic. maybe I should just look for a nice shade to hang around the same pendant and forget about spotlights!
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    Your points are all valid,however dealing with this is something landlord should worry about.and it's written in my lease.my concern is simply replacing that basic pendant with some spotlight bars. and finding a double insulated one that can be fitted with just 2 wires with no need for an earth...
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    check my posted pictures.I think it's impossible to reach without significant damage.
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    I found some photoes from the ceiling rose from the day sound proofing were being installed. so it's now burried under layers of foam,boards and plaster.
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    it's not just plaster unfortunately,there one layer of plaster,then sound proofing board,then sound proofing foam,and then the original ceiling where the ceiling rose is fitted.it's simply not worth it/maybe not even possible. the best choice will be either not installing a new lightning,or find...
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    what do you mean? I'm saying at this point,there is no point in bringing an electrician to provide me a note that certain type of fitting shouldn't be installed.
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    well that's not going to help with my problem is it? a notice that class 1 fitting could not be fitted! something that I already know. also as a tenant,all these repairs and inspections etc are on landlord.
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    I don't know.the sound proofing was fitted around 6-7 months ago upon my request,prior to that there was a standard ceiling rose with earth connection. they probably assumed that a normal shade will be attached and not a whole new lightning system (spotlights) that requires wiring and earth. I...
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    I know there are people who don't even care about earth, the landord themselves were negligent covering the ceiling rose and earth under sound proofing, but yeah I just asked, and won't do it if it's unsafe.
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    Well I'm responsible hence why asking to do it properly and safely..also these can be reversed back to original or if left modified,it's at my own expense and something added to the value of their property. I mean a free modern spotlight bought by me vs their cheap boring single bulb hanging...
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    they are not bothered about these small changes.
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    it's a rented property and soundproofing was fitted by landlord. I think I'll start looking for these double insulated lights that don't need earth it's a shame because I already bought these spotlight pendant.
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    Is there anything I can do to reduce such risk,for example cover the metal interior of this pendant with plastic tape etc? also is it still dangerous even if original fittings in the ceiling has earth already? sorry if all this sounds silly! can’t believe I am limited to just one basic light...
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    There is no ceiling rose. I’ve attarched some pictures to my first post. The ceiling rose was covered when they fitted sound proofing and plastered the ceiling. Now there is just one cord hanging out of ceiling (which has live and neutral).
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    What happens if I just connect the live/neutral cords to the new connector and skip the earth as there is no earth available. (there is possibly earth connected to the original ceiling rose which is now buried under the ceiling sound proofing with no access)
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    Installing ceiling lights but there is no earth

    I’m trying to fit a new ceiling light pendant. the pendant has a small connector with blue,brown and green/yellow wires. however on the ceiling , there is just one basic pendant with 2 cords attached (blue and brown) so there’s no earth. There is no ceiling rose l,think when they installed...

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