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my house has 100ms time delay rcd main switch. why would this have been installed in a house? is it legal?
thanks
 
sounds to me as if the OP just doesnt like the verdict on his inspection - end of.

were just going round the houses here to be honest , none of us on the forum can change what your electricican has reported so just pay up for the repairs if you want a pass cert.
and fiddling with telecoms dont mean jacks**t in our world lol.
;-)
 
sorry what is Zs? you could be right ive read it wrong as 25

i hired this company off mybuilder.com, for a landlord cert, eicr. they were cheapest quote, but im getting the distinct feeling they are trying to pad it out.
i actually said to the bloke when he was here sucking his teeth, why cant the mcb for non existant cooker and shower just be disconected and if any wires going to them, cut them well back. apparrently he was happier just to fail it...

im still unclear on the watermain earth though, do you have to absolutely see the connection on the water main within ?? mm of the stopcock to "pass "?

i have to say thoughi realy apprciate all the advice and no, im not going to peru:)
 
love you too biffo, the OP is happy to pay for work due, but gets a bit ****y with "cute" trademen -thats cute in the irish sense. i.e not sexy
thanks the rest of you. if you want advice on a pbx happy to help.
 
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sorry what is Zs? you could be right ive read it wrong as 25

i hired this company off mybuilder.com, for a landlord cert, eicr. they were cheapest quote, but im getting the distinct feeling they are trying to pad it out.
i actually said to the bloke when he was here sucking his teeth, why cant the mcb for non existant cooker and shower just be disconected and if any wires going to them, cut them well back. apparrently he was happier just to fail it...

im still unclear on the watermain earth though, do you have to absolutely see the connection on the water main within ?? mm of the stopcock to "pass "?

i have to say thoughi realy apprciate all the advice and no, im not going to peru:)

I think you have just found out why cheap isn't always cheap ;(

No, you don't need to see the water earth the pass it. Or I wouldn't anyway - I'd say a C3 if I testing ok.
If you don't like what they have said you can always get someone else to fix the faults. If you get a cert from another spark saying all the faults on the original EICR are fixed then I believe you are good to go.....

EDIT: of course you would have to find a spark who is happy to approve the bonding by testing it and inspecting one end only. Some won't, as shown by comments here.....
 
landlord cert, eicr.

???

Isn't the landlord responsible for all this? If you are the landlord then I'd say pay for the EICR, you know there's some issues that need to be sorted, move on from that and and get some quotes on the remedials, including the company you've already used.

im still unclear on the watermain earth though, do you have to absolutely see the connection on the water main within ?? mm of the stopcock to "pass "?

Need to be able to locate it, at least point to the cable/clamp and say "THAR SHE BLOWS!", confirming that it's connected isn't really enough and in this case it sounds like it isn't connected.
 
ok, i know this is not true test but just to stir it up, ive just stuck my multimeter neg in the earth prong of a scoket and other side to kitchen tap,: 4.5 ohms, sounds pretty connected to me and imagine you too. thats what i mean, they are taking the proverbial, ok, maybe they couldnt find the bond, but thats no reason to say its not earthed when it obviously is, right?
 
seems strange there is no hard and fast rule on the water earth, one persons c2 is anothers c3.. can this be right?

There is no document that that states what fault is what code (there are some guidelines, but that is all they are) so it is down to the experience and common sense on what to code things as. so you can get different opinions from different sparks.

Yes, the regs state that the connections should be visible for inspection so you do not meet the regs. However is it "potentially dangerous" (C2) or "needs improvement" (c3)? that is down to judgement.
The way I judge it is on what I would do if it was my house to be happy my wife and kids are safe. So in this case, if one end was visible and it measured at less than 0.05ohm I would say that the risk of danger is low and I would give it a C3. i.e I would not rip the house apart to find the other end but I would fix it if I got the chance. Others might say that to guarantee it is safe they need to see the other end so they would give it a C2.

To be fair though, would it be that bad to cut an access panel just above the stop cock so it can be inspected? It would stop hassle every few years when you need another inspection.....
 
ok, i know this is not true test but just to stir it up, ive just stuck my multimeter neg in the earth prong of a scoket and other side to kitchen tap,: 4.5 ohms, sounds pretty connected to me and imagine you too. thats what i mean, they are taking the proverbial, ok, maybe they couldnt find the bond, but thats no reason to say its not earthed when it obviously is, right?

no. 4.5 ohms is way too high. Needs to be less than 0.05 ohms and you won't test that with a standard multimeter! I thought you said it measured at 0 ohms?
 

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