2 conductors in the same Wago connector hole

[Daniel Howard]

I've just watched a video on youtube about installing a bathroom extractor fan off of the light switch.

In it the guy says how much easier this is when you use Wago connector blocks rather than a ceiling rose (about 7 and a half minutes in). He's using Wago 3-way lever connector 222 blocks, but of course 3 of the blocks need 4 connections, so he's shoved 2 conductors into the same hole.

Is this safe / ok? I guess 5-way connectors wouldn't fit in the box, and (as far as I can tell) they don't sell 4-way connectors.

Any advice much appreciated.

 

[Octopus]

why didn't he use the Wago 2273-204 Compact Transparent
4 Pole Push Wire Connector - Red Cover - 0.5mm² - 2.5mm² Solid?

 

[mattg4321]

I certainly would never do that. It doesn't take many brain cells to imagine that there is a high chance of a poor quality connection doing this, especially with solid core conductors as the dipstick in the video has done.

On a side note, anybody using wire strippers isn't a proper sparks

 

[westward10]

This individual may claim to be many things. One thing for certain is that he is not a skilled electrician.

 

[Moaz]

I certainly would never do that. It doesn't take many brain cells to imagine that there is a high chance of a poor quality connection doing this, especially with solid core conductors as the dipstick in the video has done.

On a side note, anybody using wire strippers isn't a proper sparks

Definitely agree with this. If it's got two slots, it's meant for two conductors. Although he makes it look as if it's got a good connection. I don't think it really is.

 

[Midwest]

I've often wonder myself, as I couldn't find any info on that subject on the WAGO site. I have experimented, putting two conductors into the same connection, tugging one or either conductor, can result in one coming loose from the terminal. I guess any slight discrepancy in the same conductor size can prevent a secure clamp of said conductor.

Much better to use the one conductor into single clamp connection, and use a Wago XL box to accommodate the larger clamp connectors.
Of course you wouldn't think of twisting two conductors together and use one clamp connection, would you

 

[scootknew]

put the conductors up his bum hole

 

[Midwest]

put the conductors up his bum hole

I doubt if that would be classed as maintenance free?

 

[Daniel Howard]

Thanks for the responses - I thought it was probably not a good idea trying to fit 2 into the same slot.

So you're going to need 3 x 4-way connector and 1 x 3-way connector, which will take up quite a bit of space. What kind of box would accommodate all of that?

 

[Midwest]

On a side note, anybody using wire strippers isn't a proper sparks

On a side note, anybody using tin snips to cut a cable, is committing a professional faux pas

 

[Octopus]

maybe use a spark?

 

[SparkyChick]

If it's all solid core, use the standard push fit connections and a standard Wagobox.

 

[Midwest]

So you're going to need 3 x 4-way connector and 1 x 3-way connector, which will take up quite a bit of space. What kind of box would accommodate all of that?

Friggin said it already, Wago XL.

 

[Midwest]

maybe use a spark?

Ehh up, you could be right

 

[Midwest]

Are you an Electrician Daniel?

 

[Rpa07]

Friggin said it already, Wago XL.

I bought two of those the other day - takes up half of my van. I’ve been using one as a booster seat since Monday!

 

[Daniel Howard]

Are you an Electrician Daniel?

No, I'm not. Just have an extractor fan to connect, and thought it would be quite a simple job. The ceiling boards are all off, so you can get to everything very easily.

 

[Midwest]

I bought two of those the other day - takes up half of my van. I’ve been using one as a booster seat since Monday!

I got a big box of em in my garage!

They are bally useful mind, when doing bathrooms with luminaires, fans, vanity mirrors, alchove lights etc etc.

 

[Midwest]

No, I'm not. Just have an extractor fan to connect, and thought it would be quite a simple job. The ceiling boards are all off, so you can get to everything very easily.

Then you want be wanting all these connectors & jb's then?

 

[SparkyChick]

So you're going to need 3 x 4-way connector and 1 x 3-way connector, which will take up quite a bit of space. What kind of box would accommodate all of that?

If it's loop in (L/I), loop out (L/O), switch (S), light (L) and fan (F), you're going to need (these are standard size push connectors):-

1 x 6w (CPC - L/I, L/O, S, L, F)
3 x 4W (P/L - L/I, L/O, S, F) (S/L - S, L, F) (N - L/I, L/O, L, F)

They will fit quite comfortably in a standard Wagobox.

 

[PEG]

...The title of this thread has led me to question the validity of my diversity training...

 

[Gavin John Hyde]

I doubt prof stephen hawking pondered this before his death. So the forum will decide....
Is it permissable to mix and match different makes of push fit connectors
Ie wago and them other ones by ideal as shown below and put them in the same wago box or other similar mf enclosure..
Even if not against the regs...is it a mortal sin?

 

[ipf]

put the conductors up his bum hole

A bit too much motion for my liking.

 

[johnduffell]

That's the advantage of screw terminals, you can shove whatever conductors you like in and then tighten down.
The other advantage is cost.
Even then, especially with 3 conductors, it's common to fail the pull out test after tightening the screw firmly.

 

[Pete999]

I've just watched a video on youtube about installing a bathroom extractor fan off of the light switch.

In it the guy says how much easier this is when you use Wago connector blocks rather than a ceiling rose (about 7 and a half minutes in). He's using Wago 3-way lever connector 222 blocks, but of course 3 of the blocks need 4 connections, so he's shoved 2 conductors into the same hole.

Is this safe / ok? I guess 5-way connectors wouldn't fit in the box, and (as far as I can tell) they don't sell 4-way connectors.

Any advice much appreciated.

No not a good idea to do what Matey did and yes you can get 4 way Wagos