A reminder to everyone - FatallyFlawed - Child Plug Socket Covers Campaign

[mickm]

Thanks to Tony for this. I manage and do the maintenance for our local Village Hall and these dam things are just one of the many stupid items the so called education and local goverment inspectors force the staff to use.
We now have long expensive plastic baffles the length of eaach door to stop the kids getting there fingers trapped.

 

[Knobhead]

Have a look on the site and you will find OFSTED inspectors can’t insist on covers. It’s the owners decision.

 

[brightspark11]

Thanks Tony, I was really shocked to read this. I will pass the information on to everyone I know. Is it ok to link to the campaign from my own website?

 

[alarm man]

like to add another,cheap plugs,it happened to my mam a while a go on her iron,these things get plugged in and out on a regular basis,she pulled it out and the top came off while the plug was still in the socket no damage done as she knew the danger tho some people wont,some ive seen the screws are pretty poor and can work loose very easily

 

[Knobhead]

Thanks Tony, I was really shocked to read this. I will pass the information on to everyone I know. Is it ok to link to the campaign from my own website?

Please do, the more the better. FF is not my web site, but they are happy the more people push the message.

 

[Knobhead]

like to add another,cheap plugs,it happened to my mam a while a go on her iron,these things get plugged in and out on a regular basis,she pulled it out and the top came off while the plug was still in the socket no damage done as she knew the danger tho some people wont,some ive seen the screws are pretty poor and can work loose very easily

Seen e'm, a bloody disgrace they get on the market.

 

[24pack]

Thanx 4 the info,just printed sheet off,will copy them and pass them on to make people aware of this problem.

 

[PVKitsDirect]

My wife bought a load of these when we had kids, but I refused to use them.

Mothercare preying on mother's to make a couple of quid on a totally useless product. At least our ones had three pins so weren't dangerous. Still useless though.

 

[John81]

Thanks for the heads up on this one Tony. I came across this thread today and called my wife straight away as she is a childminder at home and every socket we have is covered up with one of those pescy things. I always have a terrible time getting the things out to charge my phone. Anyway she has removed the lot and also been in touch with childminders in the area with the link to the site. Im happy to say by dinner time today 5 houses worth of children are now safer. Thanks

 

[ADB57]

This is a very useful thread, tks

 

[seftonbarn]

Haven't read all 128 posts to this thread, so forgive me if someone has touched on the issue that I raise on the post.

If these things are so bad and they are found to be installed during a periodic, what Observation Codes are being used on the EICR (C1, C2 or C3)?

I am guessing that these items are not manufactured under any specific BS or other standard. So perhaps 511.2 applies. And so if the person carrying out the inspection and testing sees these items fitted they have to make a decision: Either that they are satisfied "that the equipment provides at least the same degree of safety as that afforded by compliance with the regulations" (511.2). Or if they are not satisfied then , by definition they must apply an observation code, C1, C2 or C3.

So what's it to be?

 

[Knobhead]

Unfortunately they don’t fall within the scope of BS1363 they are classified as “toys”. IE of a size that they can’t be swallowed by a child. Stupid but unfortunately true.
Please, if you find them during a EICR please note them and point them out to the customer. There is no legislation to control them.

 

[seftonbarn]

Unfortunately they don’t fall within the scope of BS1363 they are classified as “toys”. IE of a size that they can’t be swallowed by a child. Stupid but unfortunately true.
Please, if you find them during a EICR please note them and point them out to the customer. There is no legislation to control them.

So are you saying that these should be noted as an observation? And if so which code?

 

[Knobhead]

So are you saying that these should be noted as an observation? And if so which code?

To be honest I don’t know what to tell you.

They are unsafe but the regulation don’t cover them.
All you can do is recommend their removal.

But please carry on and try to educate the people about them.

 

[seftonbarn]

To be honest I don’t know what to tell you.

They are unsafe but the regulation don’t cover them.
All you can do is recommend their removal.

But please carry on and try to educate the people about them.

Surely there's something in BS1363 that says that BS1363 socket outlets are only to be used with BS1363 plugs. Are you saying that you have no obligation to code anything that you find plugged into a BS1363 because it is not part of the installtion even if you believe it to be dangerous.