AFDDs are a massive fraud

[Cookie]

Derailed another thread with AFDDs, so I am starting this one. I will simply say that UK RCDs and MCBs provide arc fault protection as is. UL not only knows that, but extensively researched UK power systems in an effort to emulate the very same concept 40 years. One the simply fact (growing concern) that the US National Electrical Code does not prohibit a maximum earth fault loop impedance.

 

[Cookie]

A Troll, may be?????? only asking not accusing

And what would a background do? If I worked for a massive multi national company or code making body do you seriously believe I would hold these views? Posting them for all to see? They don't look for people who see the truth, they look for useful idiots and those who can progress the companies set goals both written and unwritten to which there are many btw.

 

[DPG]

I still don't see why you won't share your background. It's the first time I've ever seen this on a forum. You still haven't given a proper reason as far as I can see.

 

[Deleted member 26818]

I still don't see why you won't share your background. It's the first time I've ever seen this on a forum. You still haven't given a proper reason as far as I can see.

I’ve only shared dribs and drabs of mine.

 

[DPG]

I’ve only shared dribs and drabs of mine.

Me too, but it seems a bit deliberate in this case. And when you start making the sort of accusations he is making then it would help. In my opinion anyway.

 

[Cookie]

I still don't see why you won't share your background. It's the first time I've ever seen this on a forum. You still haven't given a proper reason as far as I can see.

Clearly you've never been on a US forum, because AFCI angst literally goes on for 5 dozen pages. Search AFCIs on Mike Holt's forum as an example.

 

[DPG]

Clearly you've never been on a US forum, because AFCI angst literally goes on for 5 dozen pages. Search "Mike Holt AFCIs"

You're just avoiding the issue again.

I never mentioned how long threads go for.

 

[Cookie]

Me too, but it seems a bit deliberate in this case. And when you start making the sort of accusations he is making then it would help. In my opinion anyway.

What type of background would you like me to have? What would have you believe me?

 

[DPG]

What type of background would you like me to have? What would have you believe me?

I give up. I was interested in this thread but its going nowhere for me.

 

[Cookie]

You're just avoiding the issue again.

I never mentioned how long threads go for.

Go and a US forum and you will see plenty of not sharing credentials and people hold AFDD opinions far more extreme then mine.

 

[DPG]

Go and a US forum and you will see plenty of not sharing credentials and people hold AFDD opinions far more extreme then mine.

Defensive again.

 

[Cookie]

I give up. I was interested in this thread but its going nowhere for me.

Because its not about credentials. Its about the facts I've posted.

 

[Wilko]

Go and a US forum and you will see plenty of not sharing credentials and people hold AFDD opinions far more extreme then mine.

Hi - opinions are like ears, everyone’s got one or two. It’s just human nature to have more respect for statements if there is some background knowledge of the person making them. If you don’t feel you can share, that’s fine .
I’m a big believer in proper design, installation and testing. I might be wrong, but I think this would remove the need for an AFDD, at least in UK (?).

 

[Cookie]

Hi - opinions are like ears, everyone’s got one or two. It’s just human nature to have more respect for statements if there is some background knowledge of the person making them. If you don’t feel you can share, that’s fine .
I’m a big believer in proper design, installation and testing. I might be wrong, but I think this would remove the need for an AFDD, at least in UK (?).

But some opinions are based on fact others are based on fiction. I don't understand how my links (openly saying your breakers detect arcing) is not supporting evidence in of itself. I don't care who the messenger is, but rather what is he trying to say and what evidence he has.

 

[Wilko]

But some opinions are based on fact others are based on fiction. I don't understand how my links (openly saying your breakers detect arcing) is not supporting evidence in of itself. I don't care who the messenger is, but rather what is he trying to say and what evidence he has.

Hi - yes, I agree, don’t shoot the messenger .
I am sorry to say that I’ve not looked at your links yet.

 

[Sisyphus]

I'm a Yank spark, the reason I (and Cookie) are here is because we've been witness to an entire history of fraud in the US that is now spreading itself globally.

If you'd like more specifics, we can easily bore you for pages.

But the thing is, we are here because we need your help

Pursuant to this, you folks have a history of RCD's , Earth loop resistance , as well as other relevant theory.

Something that is far less a consideration in the states

This is a big reason why we've been duped

~S~