An Awful Feeling This

[gap30]

Gap you will be ok mate you cant know everything but you can give it a go and as i have seen your doing enough mate

I put similar effort in and like you and was daunted at first.The more i read practised the more I started to understand, You think you wont know enough but I am sure you will.
I am sure you will find like I did because of all the study fly through it but take your time to read the quetions at least twice before rushing in
any your stuck on just move on and try to answer at the end
then read through it all if you have time until that cert drops on the floor you wont be 100% certain
But as you have put everything into it like me sure you will be OK

how long before the exam

11th August mate, brucelee can i run something past you mate

compile a list of 8 checks to be made during the inspection process that could apply to any type of electrical installation using any type of wiring system in any environment

now does this apply to 2.6.3 inspection checklist or,

2.6.2 comments on individual items to be inspected or,

the main headers on form 3

now after reading the question i am immediately thinking

connnection of conductors
identification of conductors
routing of cables within prescribed zones
basic protection
fault protection
selection of conductors for current-carrying capacity and voltage drop
presence of residual current devices
erection methods

but the ones i have listed are all from schedule of inspections, and the first two options i gave you are slightly different and go into more detail, i have almost memorised the schedule of inspections but am i right in thinking the question wants a bit more elaboration?

 

[Mark.W]

another one for you

state the purpose of an initial verification of a newly installed circuit

To conform that the circuit complies with the designers intentions
The circuit has been designed, installed and tested in accordance with the requirements of BS7671
It is not damaged so as to impair safety or otherwise defective

ok but guidance note 3 also says

initial verification shall be carried out to verify:

all installed electrical equipment and material is of the correct type and complies with applicable British Standards or acceptable equivalents
all parts of the fixed installation are correctly selected and erected
no part of the fixed installation is visibly damaged or otherwise defective

so which one is right?

The second part as per GN3 basically means that as part of an initial verification, these items should be inspected!

 

[brucelee]

mate your on the money as it asks for a list and for the first 20 questions its either a couple of wordsor a sentance at most

your answer is ok as its asking for a list like a shopping list so your on the mark and as long as applicable to any instalation then i reckon full marks for that answer
and from 2.6.2 these 19 items
and could be from also from pg 27 depending on situation and installation eg conduit then look down the general ist on pg27 see if any relevent then pg 30 for conduits

the 19 on pages 20 onwards are aplicable to all for initial verification
the ones from 27 depend on the installation either pir or initial

there is also a list for PIrs pg 66 3.9

the schedule ofinspections is the list from pages 20 - 26 they are the same and the C&G are testing your knowledge of the certs and GN3 also bs7671 so answer as per GN3 and your on the money


Iq or widdler may be able to explain better than me

 

[gap30]

mate your on the money as it asks for a list and for the first 20 questions its either a couple of wordsor a sentance at most

your answer is ok as its asking for a list like a shopping list so your on the mark and as long as applicable to any instalation then i reckon full marks for that answer
and from 2.6.2 these 19 items
and could be from also from pg 27 depending on situation and installation eg conduit then look down the general ist on pg27 see if any relevent then pg 30 for conduits

the 19 on pages 20 onwards are aplicable to all for initial verification
the ones from 27 depend on the installation either pir or initial

there is also a list for PIrs pg 66 3.9

the schedule ofinspections is the list from pages 20 - 26 they are the same and the C&G are testing your knowledge of the certs and GN3 also bs7671 so answer as per GN3 and your on the money


Iq or widdler may be able to explain better than me

yes mate i forgot about page 66 - so basically if i stick to schedule of inspections i am ok

 

[andybrock]

Gap you will be ok mate you cant know everything but you can give it a go and as i have seen your doing enough mate

I put similar effort in and like you and was daunted at first.The more i read practised the more I started to understand, You think you wont know enough but I am sure you will.
I am sure you will find like I did because of all the study fly through it but take your time to read the quetions at least twice before rushing in
any your stuck on just move on and try to answer at the end
then read through it all if you have time until that cert drops on the floor you wont be 100% certain
But as you have put everything into it like me sure you will be OK

how long before the exam

Excellent thread this guys.Taking my wriiten exam on the 11th Aug too so full into revision at the moment.
I'm on the course next week with my practical on Thurs.

 

[brucelee]

state the purpose of an initial verification of a newly installed circuit

To conform that the circuit complies with the designers intentions
The circuit has been designed, installed and tested in accordance with the requirements of BS7671
It is not damaged so as to impair safety or otherwise defective

ok but guidance note 3 also says

initial verification shall be carried out to verify:

all installed electrical equipment and material is of the correct type and complies with applicable British Standards or acceptable equivalents
all parts of the fixed installation are correctly selected and erected
no part of the fixed installation is visibly damaged or otherwise defective


as for this i was like you i thought eh 2 answers for same question but its not same

C&G will ask whats the purpose of initial verification according to Bs7671

Or initial verification carried out to confirm
M materialsof the correct type and comply with BS blah blah
E erected and selected properly
D damage and defects not present

I questioned out tutor on this and a few other things lol as we had a booklet they give us which had errors i spotted
he was a good tutor and always willing to help tried to add the answers he gave but cant sus out how to do it since the forum changed

 

[Sparky Ninja]

I'm halfway through looking at the paper Gap. I've checked part A and there is probably only 2 marks out of the 60 that I would consider knocking off. I'll finish going through it in the morning and then get back to you with the feedback.

 

[brucelee]

yeah mate but they may ask about a certain installor initial or pir installation eg conduit or trunking whatever then look at p20 onwards for initail and 27 onwards also if for pir pg 27 onwards and pg 66 etc

 

[gap30]

I'm halfway through looking at the paper Gap. I've checked part A and there is probably only 2 marks out of the 60 that I would consider knocking off. I'll finish going through it in the morning and then get back to you with the feedback.

cheers mate thats good to hear!

 

[gap30]

Excellent thread this guys.Taking my wriiten exam on the 11th Aug too so full into revision at the moment.
I'm on the course next week with my practical on Thurs.

you with me on the 11th pal, you stressed out as well lol

i had one of them days in work today lol, grafted all day just got in now, now i got to eat then more revision noooooo!

 

[andybrock]

Yep know what you mean.Had head in the books over the weekend lol.Loads of stuff buzzing around there now !!
Some superb advice on here.
Have some past papers,let us know if you need them:smiley2:

 

[gap30]

Yep know what you mean.Had head in the books over the weekend lol.Loads of stuff buzzing around there now !!
Some superb advice on here.
Have some past papers,let us know if you need them:smiley2:

hi just been to norway for a couple of days and drank a lot of beer, now i got to study hard for 10 days

Just been offered a new job £12.50 an hour - toying with the idea atm, as i said in my other thread i am on a week to week basis in work atm

 

[gap30]

Taken from the exam success book

Describe the test procedure to determine the resistance of the installation earth electrode

seek permission to isolate the installation
safely isolate supply and all circuit breakers
select an earth fault loop impedance tester
disconnect the earthing conductor
connect the instrument, earth lead to disconnected earthing conductor, neutral to outgoing neutral of main isolator and phase to outgoing phase of main isolator
close the main isolator
check the instrument set to 200 ohms and carry out the test
open the main isolator and disconnect instrument in the reverse order
reconnect the earthing conductor

page 50 of gn3 shows a picture which shows the main switch as open

is this absolutely necessary? does the main isolator have to be closed (turned on) i assume by this they mean the main switch on db 1 for example

 

[Graeme Harrold]

Did the book question tell you which method to describe? i.e. Method 1 with the probes, or method 2 as a loop test

 

[Graeme Harrold]

page 50 of gn3 shows a picture which shows the main switch as open

is this absolutely necessary? does the main isolator have to be closed (turned on) i assume by this they mean the main switch on db 1 for example

Access dependant, your enclosure should be IP2X, therfore finger safe in theory. Add the line check and cover/shield live accessable areas. You should also be able to get your L and N probes onto the incomming terminal screws of the main switch, which will be live, therfore no need to close and open the switch to perform the test, making it a bit safer.